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hey, so if it takes a Mauser cartrige(8mm mauser, 6.5 etc) does it have a mauser action? Or can it have a regular bolt action and still shoot the mauser brass?

I am gonna want one of these, but I do want a mauser action rifle, not just one that shoots expensive stuff.

can you tell by looking at it?(pictures only) To my rookie eyes I dont see much difference between a mauser and a regular bolty.

PS, I like the Swedes and Czechs. Probably can't afford the regular Germans. Any others I should be looking for?
 
MAUSER is just the action can be rebarreled to take .308 for cheap shooting

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If you're looking for a decently priced Mauser, Marstar has Yugo M24/47's available. They are very close to a German K98 in appearance and function, but at about half the cost. (mine was $431 shipped).
 
You can cut your ammunition cost by HALF or better simply by reloading.

8mm Mauser costs about $24 for 20 shells; I load mine for $11 a box and get match-grade stuff.

.43 Mauser (for the 1871 and 1871/84) is $60 a box and up if you can find it, reloads for $4 plus a bit of time.

The cost of the empty casing is HALF the cost of any Cartridge. It can be reloaded into top-quality shooting ammo, EVEN with inflated Canadian prices for components, for half-price..... and your ammo is BETTER than factory if you take a bit of care.

Buy whatever rifle you like.

Then load for it and enjoy it.

BTW, the reason a Mauser looks so much like "any other 'bolty'" is because MOST of them COPIED it once the patents ran out. The really hard part was when they tried to make it cheaper instead of better. They COULDN'T make it any better...... so they made it cheaper. The BEST rifles of World War I, the British P-14 and the American M-1917, both were modified copies of M-95 Mausers, the American M-1903 Springfield a modified (for the worse) copy of the 98 Mauser.

Best deal on a Mauser rifle on the market today is the Swedish 1896/1938 series: pure Mausers, incredible shooters, mild recoil. Trade-Ex has a number of sporters if that is what you are looking for, in several calibres, the EE has lots more.
 
Riles and ammunition may or may not share the same ancestry.

Paul Mauser developed RIFLES. The series which he began in 1869 and continued until 1898 GAVE us the modern bolt rifle. Everything else ( except the P-14/M1917 rifles) has been an effort to make them cheaper. This effort generally is a disaster in one form or another: Paul Mauser was a GENIUS of a designer.

But Paul Mauser ALSO developed CARTRIDGES: a whole FAMILY on the 57mm case length, another FAMILY on the 53/54mm case, another on the 51mm case, and in bullet diameters from .243" through to .446". He had a .270 in 1908, built it for China as the 6.8x57; it took Winchester a quarter of a century (and Jack O'Connor) to catch up. He built an 8x51 more than a century ago; it took NATO half a century to neck it to .30 and adopt it. The 6mm Remington is nothing more than a .244 Remington which is nothing more than a copy of the 6x57 Mauser..... as the .243 Winchester is simply a 6x51 Mauser with the pressures driven far too high.

Mauser cartridges have been used in MOST rifles at one time or another. Winchester chambered the 7x57 in both the Model 54 and the Model 70 (both modified Mausers, BTW), Remington will chamber anything in their 700 action (a modified Mauser), Mannlicher regularly chambered most of the Mauser cartridges in his rifles and the English makers bought actions directly from Mauser and from Steyr nd chambered them in whatever the customer wanted........ including the .275 Express....... which was just a 7x57 with a new name!

And it ALL goes back to Paul Mauser, one of the greatest firearms GENIUSES who ever lived.
 
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They have both Military and Sporting rifles at reasonable prices. Cartridges are sometimes given a name to diferentiate them. For example, the 30-06 Springfield cartridge is found in all types of firearms worldwide, and in all kinds of different types of actions, by a lot of different manufacturers. The "Mauser" in the cartridge name is just an identifier for a propriety cartridge first invented by Mauser for their rifles. This does not mean that the cartridge has to be used ONLY in Mauser rifles but could be used in any suitable rifle action.
 
great info, thanx everyone!

now, still, how do I know if its a mauser or just a nice milsurp?

PS, I don't want a sporter.

pretty sure I want 8mm and I will add the Yugo stuff to the search
 
John_in_BC said:
great info, thanx everyone!

now, still, how do I know if its a mauser or just a nice milsurp?

PS, I don't want a sporter.

pretty sure I want 8mm and I will add the Yugo stuff to the search
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If its a bolt action and its not an lee enfeild, a mosin Nagant , a carcano, a arisaka then its pretty much a Mauser rifle or a rifle based on his design. They were used by around 50 different countries and there are countless models and variants so its easier to tell you what isn't a Mauser then what is.
 
or any of those straight slide actions correct?

Is there something identifiable on the action/bolt that will let me see?

I know cars, and can tell stuff easily by pictures, but I am out of my deapth here, sorry
 
Mauser introduced the flip-over "leaf" safety on the back of the bolt on the 1871 model.

You had 2 positions only on all rifles up to and including the 95/96 design: SAFE and FIRE.

The 98 introduced the 3-position safety: SAFE, REMOVE/DISASSEMBLE BOLT and FIRE.
 
if you are in no hurry, watch out for a peruvian 1909 - the highwater mark in military rifles in my opinion.

given your original post, i would suggest a husqvarna M1938. light, handy, accurate, and since you are in BC, you might even have a matching chainsaw.
 
ok, and is 8mm that much better than 6.5? In all aspects? I know it will hit harder, but is it hard to find? Costly? anything else?

I still think I would prefer the 8mm, but just in case i figured I'd ask.
 
When the swedish mauser's first were sold, there was plenty of shell sold in plastic combat packs. The calibre wasn't widely used, so there isn't that many shells around. The 8mm mauser k98 was used by almost everyone in europe in one version or another. But the 8mm round was made by everyone, so there are more 8mm shells made than 6.5 swedish. There are also more parts around to re-build k98 mausers. Yugo mausers are well built and replacement parts are still available to re-condition them or other k98's. Israeli k98's come in 8mm or 308 and parts are available for these also,but a little harder to find. All are a good place to start.
 
The 6.5x55 is an inherently very accurate cartridge. I've found that factory ammo for it is at least $38 a box, here in Ontario at least. Online dealers have it cheaper, but I like to by ammo local; save on shipping ;). Of course reloading will cut that cost dramatically. You can get bullets ranging from 85gr up to 140gr (I was just looking for some yesturday. I did see one 200gr bullet).

8mm is also very accurate. Again, I've found that factory ammo is $25 and up (in Ontario). For reloading, I've found bullets from 125gr up to 220gr. If anyone know of anymore, please comment. It has been a while since I've looked for 8mm. Some interesting trivia about the 8x57. It is the only orginal military cartridge which is still supersonic out past 1000 meters. (at least this is what I've heard)
 
smellie said:
Mauser introduced the flip-over "leaf" safety on the back of the bolt on the 1871 model.

You had 2 positions only on all rifles up to and including the 95/96 design: SAFE and FIRE.

The 98 introduced the 3-position safety: SAFE, REMOVE/DISASSEMBLE BOLT and FIRE.
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I can say for FACT that I have a 93 and 95 Spanish, a Turkish 93 and a SEVERAL Swedish 96s and 96/38s and a 38 (shortened 96s) and they ALL have a three position saftey. I don't know where you got your info and I don't mean to be rude but you're wrong in your statement
 
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