Mauser with missing wedge pin

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RichardSlinger

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Hi all
I'm trying to find a wedge pin for an old mauser rifle that a friend of mine owns.

The slot is .409 wide on the left side and .431 wide on the right side.
I'm guessing it's just a tapered wedge that goes in there and that there probably wasn't a pin or a screw to keep it in place?
I've never actually seen what those wedges look like or how they are kept in place.
I've seen some pins made for muzzleloaders for sale but none of them seem like they'd be wide enough for the slot in this rifle.

Is there a source for these pins that you can point me to, or would one have to be custom made?
Am I correct in my assumption that the wedge is kept in place without a screw/pin that goes vertically through them?

Thanks
 
RichardSlinger said:
Am I correct in my assumption that the wedge is kept in place without a screw/pin that goes vertically through them?
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Yes, you are correct. A gentle taper will lock. Just like the Morse taper in your drill press spindle.
I usually try Track of the Wolf in Elk Lake, Minnesota for that sort of thing. Their website is always way behind. I would just call.
 
guntech said:
I was wondering what model as I can not recall a "wedge" on any Mauser rifles I have seen. Where does this 'wedge' go and what does it retain?
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I don't know how to post pictures, but it looks similar to this one
https: //simpsonltd.com/eduard-kettner-modell-1902-mauser-sporting-rifle-c58559/
There is a slot for the pin on both sides of the stock, and a 'loop' welded under the barrel where it slides into.
I don't know why they did it that way back in the 20's or 30's, but it seems somewhat redundant to me.
Although I'm sure there are people more knowledgeable than me on here that would know what the scoop is.
 
I don't know it that is a Mauser made wedge or something the stock maker used... I think you will have to make one.
 
guntech said:
I don't know it that is a Mauser made wedge or something the stock maker used... I think you will have to make one.
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I just got a piece of brass yesterday, I'm going to start hacking and filing tonight.
I can get it close to size with some basic tools, just not sure how I'm going to get the correct thickness and how to create the "nail head" looking bit yet, but I'm sure the university of youtube will teach me again.
 
A pure guess - I see similar connection barrel to fore stock on pre-64 Winchester bolt actions, and on No. 1 SMLE - is possible that arrangement was meant to apply pressure between the fore-stock and the barrel - not just to hold them in line with each other? Again, a pure guess, but might be related to the barrel bedding used at the time - I do not think "free float" was very common back then? If it applies pressure, that wedge might be tapered on the bottom face - to get tighter as it is driven in further - in effect pulling the barrel down into the wood stock? (I suppose that is the same as pulling the wood stock up into the barrel?)
 
Potashminer said:
A pure guess - I see similar connection barrel to fore stock on pre-64 Winchester bolt actions, and on No. 1 SMLE - is possible that arrangement was meant to apply pressure between the fore-stock and the barrel - not just to hold them in line with each other? Again, a pure guess, but might be related to the barrel bedding used at the time - I do not think "free float" was very common back then? If it applies pressure, that wedge might be tapered on the bottom face - to get tighter as it is driven in further - in effect pulling the barrel down into the wood stock? (I suppose that is the same as pulling the wood stock up into the barrel?)
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I think you're right!
 
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