Maybe too Specific but.... H&K P30L V3 possible mods for IPSC

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Hey there ProAMs

I'm going for the Black Badge in a couple of weeks and many have tried to dissuade me from using my P30L as it is not a "competition gun".

1) I don't care, I'd rather learn to master my pistol than cop out by spending 3k on Tanfoglio. Yes i will change my gun one day, but for now, let's master this one
2) "I'd take your pistol to war/armageddon/Walking Dead, but not to an IPSC match" lol apperently the heavier trigger and longer reset will handicap me. Again, I'd rather learn to master it and move on in the future if i desire to do so


having said that... any thoughts on the P30L for IPSC (pros and cons are welcome of course) and secondly, could/should i get a trigger mod to reduce trigger weight and shorten the reset?? (if that even is possible in production division)


thanks shooters!
 
I think you've got a fine attitude about running what you brung. Chances are very good that the gun will be the least of your problems for a good long time. Besides, if Jerry Miculek can double action a heavily sprung revolver trigger at the rate he does then I think you've got no excuse at all. If the gamers try to tell you different just mention Jerry and his magical finger as an example of why their thinking isn't pertinent.

The only mods I'd do on your gun is to perform any minor tweaks needed to allow the magazines to drop free easily. You want them sucka's to slip out of their like a fresh caught fish off a wet teflon gutting board! ! ! !
 
The P30L is on the production list, so you're good to go. Is it the ideal IPSC handgun? Probably not, but it doesn't really matter. The only reason I wouldn't use a P30 for IPSC is that I wouldn't want to buy that many mags for it ($100 per mag HK, really?)
 
I'd use a p30l with a lem trigger on it. The only drawback with the v3 is the long and heavy double action. Dry fire is the key to master that trigger.
 
$100 per mag? Well THAT is a different story fer sure! ! ! ! For IPSC you really want to have at least 4 magazines. And 5 is better with 6 being a darn fine idea. If you only have two at the moment then I'd say it's time for a different gun just due to the mag price.
 
I ran a p07 duty for my first match/course. Had about 4000 rounds of experience with it and knew it damn well.
For my first match i felt i handled each stage very well with the p07 and placed middle of the pack of 20+ competitors.

For my 2nd match used a cz shadow with maybe 100rounds of experience and placed 2nd (6th overall amoung all divison.)

So 'run what you brung' if you want to have fun! I can relate.
If you want to compete, you have to pay to play.
 
thanks for the feedback guys... I will run with my beloved P30L (then again, I've never owned another gun lol been shooting since July), I'll just adjust and practice and if i really become serious about IPSC, I'll "upgrade" to a comp. pistol. As for the mags..they are expensive, glad i already have 5 :)
 
BCRider said:
$100 per mag? Well THAT is a different story fer sure! ! ! ! For IPSC you really want to have at least 4 magazines. And 5 is better with 6 being a darn fine idea. If you only have two at the moment then I'd say it's time for a different gun just due to the mag price.
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I don't have a problem with a $100 mag as long as it's durable.
 
Snooze does make a good point above. I know a local hotshot that LOVED is Sigs. But despite doing OK with them it took converting over to a CZ to place in the top three consistently.
 
For what it's worth, I get my P30 mags from irunguns. You can get either factory 10 rounders or 17 round mags pinned to 10. Your choice. And Waaaaaay less than Canadian retail prices and still genuine OEM HK magazines.
 
Perhaps i'm biased because frankly, I couldn't care less about IPSC. That said, shoot whatever you want to shoot and what you shoot well. At the end of the day, shooting the gun comes down to the person pulling the trigger - unless you are consistently shooting near perfect in terms of your own skills - it's unlikely that the firearm you choose will make a measurable impact on your end score.

Keep in mind, this is coming from someone who's never shot IPSC, nor plans too. Take it with a bucket of salt.
 
I agree with Doc above. At this point the firearm is the least of your worries. And in fact it may turn out that your HK is as good or better than any other option. That part is up to you. But for the first couple of years it sure won't be the thing that holds you back. At least it sure won't unless you jump into the IPSC game hook, line and sinker and begin practicing hard core drills frequently and shooting in every match you can find to the tune of >2000 rounds a month. THEN the gun might become the main issue by the end of the first year unless you change it before that.

For a more casual approach just get some of the cheaper magazines from Irunguns as noted above and have a good time shooting against yourself to see how you improve over time and to have the odd good natured bragging rights competitions with the buddies you'll end up making within the group.

Contrary to what a lot of folks feel about IPSC it's not the elitist and snobbish group that so many seem to portray it as being. Oh sure, there's a few that have a second holster for their rule book on their belt but for the most part it's the usual bunch of folks that just enjoy shooting where you get to shoot fast and lots and run a lot .
 
I have 3 IPSC Standard Class Provincial titles with an HK USP 45 Tactical. I have one IPSC Production Title with a Sig Sauer P226. If you train you will win, you don't need a CZ to win (they are nice guns though).

Rich
 
Having had both the HK USP 45 tac and p30l v3, I have to say the USP tactical is a much better target gun due to its amazing match trigger. That being said, practice makes perfect wether it's a p30l or a cheap norc.
 
I placed in the top 10 at IPSC Nationals twice with a P30L V3. There isn't much you can do to it to remain IPSC legal, any of the 'reduced reset' options will require gunsmithing that isn't allowed in Production division. It may be possible to get a lighter factory hammer spring but that can lead to reliability issues with hard primers. No need to worry about drop-free mags, the P30 has the most positive mag ejection I've ever seen.

My #1 recommendation is to upgrade the sights, a thinner front sight will help a lot. I believe Dawson precision sells front sight replacements that are the correct height for the stock rear sight - I'd also black out the rear dots as I find them distracting.

Other than that spend you money & time on ammo and practice. The P30 trigger is not great for IPSC games but with practice it won't hold you back. Feel free to send me a PM if you have any other questions.
 
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