Merry Christmas to me - Berthier 1890

Nyles

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Sorry for the crappy cell phone pictures, I'm not staying at home at the moment (renos - ugh), but I just got this new toy and had to share. A very nice Berthier M1890 cavalry carbine from a board member, made at Chatellerault in 1891. It was upgraded to the post-1894 side-mounted sling but still maintaining all the other original features, including the side-mounted cleaning rod channel (missing the rod, unfortunately) and never converted to take a bayonet. Original M1890 Cavalries are rare as the French realised pretty soon after 1914 that La Grande Guerre wasn't going to be a cavalry war. As such, most French cavalry regiments fought dismounted, but retained their carbines in the trenches for fairly obvious reasons. However, most M1890s were converted to a similar configuration to the M1892 artillery carbine as the bayonet was considered useful in the dismounted role.

Interestingly enough, this one DOES have the very rare sheet metal dust cover introduced in WW1 - which to me is a pretty good indicator this thing spent some time in the trenches! These were apparently pretty unpopular and commonly discarded - I can certainly understand, it's held on by the takedown screw and would probably make removing or reinserting the bolt (already kind of a pain with a Lebel or Berthier) even more of a pain. Given that that it still has the clip ejection hole on the bottom of the mag, it probably didn't do much anyways!

It doesn't have any of the wood patches commonly seen on refurbished French arms, which makes me think it was probably sold off or in the colonies by the time the 30s rolled around - probably because it was considered an obsolete pattern. Overall its a great rare, unmolested WW1 carbine and I'm really happy with it!




 
That's a pretty good 'To Us, From Us' present.

Given that its in very original condition, there's a good chance its a WW1 bringback, even though bringing back Allied weapons was seriously verboten....
 
Thanks for the kind comments all!

I would LOVE to find myself a Cuirassier carbine... its probably not going to happen any time soon though! Also hoping to someday track down an M1907 Tirailleur Senegalois rifle.

I have some 1948 dated 8mm Lebel surplus - it's pretty sketchy stuff, hangfires more often than not. I put 5 rounds through my Lebel and put the rest away, but under the circumstances I might have to give it another crack. These little Berthiers are NOT fun to shoot though - you think an M44 or a No.5 is bad...
 
Very nice. I love French rifles and love the fact that they are under appreciated and, thus, obtainable at fairly reasonable price. The shortage of ammo is a bit of a pain, but components are available at least. Great to see it still has its original barrel.

Is it "N" marked for the Balle N upgrade? If not, your '48 ammo is perhaps ill-advised.
 
RangeRover - good point! I had all of 3 minutes to look it over after I unpacked it before I had to leave, never even thought to check if it was N marked. All my other French arms are, but they were all rebuilt. I'll check next time I'm at my house!
 
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