Metford to Long Lee serial cutoff?

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Is there a cut off Mark, or serial range whether imagined or romantically dreamt of when the Metford barrels were dropped in favour of the Long Lee?

My MKII is in 64xx range, curious if one in the 10### range is still Metford.

Thanks!
 
Spose that would make sense. I guess without having the item in hand it will be hard to tell.
Did Canada have Metfords or just Long Lees?

Better yet, is Skinnertons book a good resource for me to get so I don't come up with these bizzare questions?
 
Up until 1896, Canada's main arm was still the Snider. Only a couple of select regiments had the Martini. But in that year Canada purchased 40,000 long Lee Enfield rifles.

Manufactured by Enfield (18.850), BSA (13,000) and LSA (8,150), they each ran their own independent serial numbers.

The Canadian rifles all have relatively low serial numbers, they were the first arms off the production lines in England to arm an overseas army. The Brit troops still had their Lee Metfords that had been issued starting a few years previously, they had not yet been upgraded with the new Enfield rifled weapon. So for a brief time, Canadian troops had a more up to date arm than the Brits.

There were a few Lee Metfords purchased by Canada for evaluation and trails. Three orders (25, 2 and 6) between 1890 and 1893. A batch of 1400 in 1895, and another 100 purchased from the Morris Aiming Tube Co in 1900/01 for a grand total of 1533 MLM rifles (Edgecombe p159). They were not general issue, so a Canadian marked MLM would be a rare find. It is my Holy Grail (or at least, one of them). Canadian marked MLE rifles are common, MLM not so much.

A good resource for information on Canadian arms is David Edgcombe's book "Defending the Dominion - Canadian Military Rifles 1855-1955"
 
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Thanks for the info englishman. I wasn't aware Canadian troops were not issued Lee Metford rifles. Guess that's why I haven't seen any. However, Canadian troops were issued Lee Metford carbines in 1895.
 
This is a cross-sectional comparison of Metford and Enfield rifling from a period manual -

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Canada's first contingent of troops for South Africa were primarily regular infantry - the 2nd (Special Service) Battalion, The Royal Canadian Regiment of Infantry (since 1901 "The Royal Canadian Regiment"). Things worked fast back then - the war was declared on October 11, 1900, and this initial contingent of Canadian troops sailed from Quebec City on October 30!

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The British soon learned that foot soldiers weren't much use for trying to bring the highly mobile Boers to battle, and requested that all subsequent contingents from Canada and the other self-governing Dominions be mounted infantry so (besides some small components of artillery, a field ambulance contingent and the like) that is what all our subsequent contributions were -

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Using a Magazine Lee-Enfield rifle in "Victorian-era Military Action Shooting" with the Grand Army of the Frontier in the U.S. -
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