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- Iroquois Falls ON
A friend found some ammo that I believe to be 6.5 x 55 with steel (magnetic) bullits. Is this stuff of any use?
Milsurp ammo, steel bullits
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My guess is that its 6.5x50 sr arisaka surplus ammo since they used cupronickel jacketed bullets which is magnetic, I don't think the swedes used steel core or jacketed bullets since they didn't go to war steel being cheaper then lead. A picture of the bullets and of the head stamp( bottom) would help allot. You could always check if the rim sticks out a bit then that would mean it is 6.5x 50 sr( semi rimed) arisaka
Blastattack
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Then clearly is it not a lead core. Magnets only stick ferromagnetic materials and electro-magnets. Unless you have electro-magnets in your bullets, the bullet contains a magnetic iron alloy.
Blastattack
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- Winnipeg MB
Fair enough.
FYI some copper bullets are steel core as well, even armor piercing.... U have run into 303 armor piercing and 30-06 armor piercing both copper bullets.
Some egyptina 8mm had steel cores ball ammo. so it's not subject to just cupro nickel, the latest batch of 7.62x54r is copper light ball with steel core........
Some egyptina 8mm had steel cores ball ammo. so it's not subject to just cupro nickel, the latest batch of 7.62x54r is copper light ball with steel core........
- Location
- Iroquois Falls ON
Here is a photo,,, I been so busy with home renovations haven't had time to measure the case.
- Location
- Iroquois Falls ON
Is the "cupro nickel plating" hard on rifling?
I think the confusion is between cupro-nickel and cupro-nickel clad steel (CNCS).
As Canam pointed out, the latter is sheet steel with a thin layer of pure cupro-nickel rolled on to it and then formed into bullet envelopes. The magnet is being attracted to the steel, not the cupro-nickel. This will happen even with ordinary lead cored ball bullets.
European manufacturers have used this bullet material ever since jacketed bullets came into use, whilst British (and Commonwealth) manufacturers have used pure cupro-nickel without the steel for their envelopes up until about 1942 when the swicth was made to gilding metal (Copper coloured). Get an old .303 with a cupro-nickel envelope and try the magnet. It will not attract.
Do the same thing with an apparently cupro-nickel European round and it wll attract because of the steel envelope under the CN.
Of course, if the bullet is AP or has a mild steel core then all bets are off because the core will attract. Even then, with a bit of experience it is possible to tell whether it has a core or a steel envelope.
Regards
TonyE
As Canam pointed out, the latter is sheet steel with a thin layer of pure cupro-nickel rolled on to it and then formed into bullet envelopes. The magnet is being attracted to the steel, not the cupro-nickel. This will happen even with ordinary lead cored ball bullets.
European manufacturers have used this bullet material ever since jacketed bullets came into use, whilst British (and Commonwealth) manufacturers have used pure cupro-nickel without the steel for their envelopes up until about 1942 when the swicth was made to gilding metal (Copper coloured). Get an old .303 with a cupro-nickel envelope and try the magnet. It will not attract.
Do the same thing with an apparently cupro-nickel European round and it wll attract because of the steel envelope under the CN.
Of course, if the bullet is AP or has a mild steel core then all bets are off because the core will attract. Even then, with a bit of experience it is possible to tell whether it has a core or a steel envelope.
Regards
TonyE
