milsurp knowledge base?!

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I saw it up there at the top, and just had to ask! What's it all about? Who will add to it, what will it contain etc? Sounds like a good idea!
 
This is going to be a forum where carefully checked reference material is going to be posted. Just as an example, there could be a portfolio of photographs showing the exact details of a genuine No. 4T; what the markings should look like, where they should be. Or, how to read the markings on a Ross rifle, or the marks on a Swedish Mauser butt disc.
 
Might I suggest an image reference for milsurp models. Ie basic pictures of different milsurps including Enfields, Mausers, Nagants, etc so that people can help ID their guns or search for things they want.
 
Hello folks...... :)

I think tiriaq has the general idea. ;)

Working with some other CGN milsurp collectors and with many thanks to stevo for his support in getting this going, we'll be setting up a series of detailed and accurate reference threads, covering various genres of old milsurp collectibles. It will range from general non-copyrighted (or copyrighted with written release) historical documentation, to detailed photo montages of period firearms, aiming to show what "all correct" specimens of models from various countries should look like. We're going to try and establish a universal look and feel to the posts, in order to make them easy to follow and consistent from thread to thread, while as much as possible ensuring we meet the needs of members with limited bandwidth.

Hopefully, it will give the CGN milsurp collector a place to go and compare various wood/metal markings through high quality close-up digital pictures, as well as other relevant details, in regards to a piece that they may be looking at buying, or validating the correctness of one already purchased. Valuations are a sensitive and subjective topic, so we're not sure if it's something we want to try and cover in this forum.

Shortly, some of you recognized as having an extensive and broad milsurp knowledge experience in various genres, will be asked if you could spare some time to read and vet content prior to public posting, to ensure that each thread/post is maximized for accuracy and thoroughness of detail. tiriaq has already agreed to be one of those panel members and in the next week, some more of you will also be approached and asked to volunteer. A complete list of those CGN members who will be helping to maintain the integrity of the "Milsurp Knowledge Base", will be published and maintained as a sticky in the forum, once we've had the chance to contact and make arrangements with them.

We hope that this forum will become a valuable resource to the CGN milsurp collector community and help all of our members to better enjoy their chosen hobby.

Regards,
Badger
 
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airwapiti said:
this is a really great idea, it could save the "new to the game"crowd a lot of headaches and prevent reposting of similar questions. When is it due to be running?
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It's going to take some time to get some material for the forum and figure out how we're going to present it. We'll let you know when it's available for everyone to view.

One question for the members. Can you access it now, or is it locked to non-mods?

Stevo
 
Stevo said:
One question for the members. Can you access it now, or is it locked to non-mods?
Stevo
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looks locked to me, no posts to view.

anywho, i do like the idea, badgerdog alone should be able to field pictures for most the milsurps available :p
 
Ok, I'm tired (getting old) .... going to bed...... :D

In the meantime, how be you Mosin-Nagant collectors email me a bunch of quality links to web sites for our reference forum.

We could also Canadian, Japanese, French, U.S., Brazilian, Argentine, Czech and Yugoslavian reference web sites. :D

Once we wade through putting up the links reference threads, we'll start on the photo montage virtual tour stuff....

Thanks...

Regards,
Badger
 
The only thing that worries me is that we give the less than honourable people who stumble acroos this information the opportunity to know how to exactly fake their run of the mill firearms into pristine and perfect rare collectable pieces.

A similiar debate went on over at battlerifles awhile back.

Just food for thought.

Great idea though.

LI
 
Light Infantry said:
The only thing that worries me is that we give the less than honourable people who stumble acroos this information the opportunity to know how to exactly fake their run of the mill firearms into pristine and perfect rare collectable pieces.
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Point well taken partner ..... :)

My personal view is that I want to have as much information as possible from as many sources as I can get, in order to make the most informed decision about anything. I think if we try to avoid giving potential "fakers" data points to be better at what they do, we're simultaneously limiting the ability of our own membership who are trying to detect those fakes in the future.

We're also assuming that "fakers" are currently not well educated on what to fake and have no access to the same information that can be had by simply buying any number of outstanding reference books on the market, such as "Backbone of the Wehrmacht (The German K98k Rifle, 1934 - 1945) by Richard D Law", probably the definitive work on German K98k rifles. He shows each model, outlining every correct mark and where it should be placed, so for the price of an Amazon book purchase, a K98k faker (lots of them already out there) has everything he needs without even going to the Internet.

It's kind of like the Liberal "ban handguns" debates. It assumes that if you remove the source of something, it solves the problems. Ban handguns and the "gang bangers" will stop shooting each other, ban cars and we'll stop drunk driving, ban forks and we'll prevent obesity. In my opinion, not publishing authoritative reference material for our members to be able to spot fakes, or simply aid them in establishing valuations based upon a collectible piece's "all correctness", actually hurts us more then it not doing it.

I hear you my friend and I think you're making a valid and debatable point, but I'd prefer to be armed with knowledge and be able to make my own decisions, as opposed to being in the dark, assuming my actions of NOT publishing materials are restricting the activities of any fakers.

Thanks for the feedback.... :)

Regards,
Badger
 
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