Milsurp Pistol Value

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I posted this in the pistol and Revolver section but never got much of a reply, i also figure since this isn't a newer gun you guys could help me out.

I have/had a customer who is interested in selling me this m1903 with shoulder shock. it's all matching and he rates the finish at more than 70% but less than 80% with a few nicks as well. Lots of rifleing left in the barrel and he's only put one box of ammo through it in the time he's had it.

have some pics now to help, and what type of price do you think is fair for a handgun like this ?

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Is it still chambered in 9mm Long?
I like the balance and the way the m03/07 sit in the hand.
The guns themselves aren't worth much due to the obsolete ammo, but with the proper stock .......
Sorry, I can't help you with a value.
 
With the original stock, that is a seriously rare set. I suspect that it could have significant value. Might not be the best news from the buyer's standpoint.
 
A tidbit I found in a google search
http://www.downrange.tv/forum/index.php?topic=2987.0

The Estonian Army and Defence League (National Guard) ordered 4522 pistols from the Belgian company Fabrique Nationale dureing 1921-1925, and approximately 100 more after that. Browning 1903 pistols constituted almost 80 percent of all pistols used in the Estonian Army and Defence League (a total of about 5800 pistols). The second most numerous pistol in the Estonian Army was the Russian Nagant 1895 (up to 900 revolvers), but these weapons were mostly stored in warehouses.
Estonia bought all Browning 1903 with wooden stock-holster together with two types of magazines; weapon’s frame back had the marking “SÕM” (abbrevation for Sõjaministeerium, “Ministry of War”) Cartridges 9x20SR were bought on a regular bases from Belgium.

9mm Browning Long was the original cartridge these pistols were chambered for - lots were converted to .380 when the were imported to NA (although I've yet to run across one!)
The pistol itself usually sells for $200-$300, but with the shoulder stock (if indeed it is correct/proper) I would expect it would sell for in excess of $1000
 
There would originally have been a 10 round magazine that went with it. The magazine would extend down through the grip extension.
 
there we go. he told me something was missing mag wise but i couldn't remember. what is the magazine that he has in the pictures?
 
The mag. in the photos looks to be standard length. Note that the mag. catch on the pistol is at the bottom of the grip. With the stock installed, the catch is inaccessible. The 10 rd. Mag. release is in the extension. The original photos I found state that the pistol is to be turned upsidedown to remove the mag. when the stock is in place.
I cannot suggest a value, but the set is definitely collectible.
 
I've owned some of those pistols and they were around $150. Some sellers at the shows ask $250 maybe more but you see them show after show. Trying to find ammo is not easy and it's expensive when you do turn up a box. $80 or more for 50 rounds.

The stock is where the money is. Have never seen one for sale. Your best bet might be to google and see what the Mauser Broomhandle stocks sell for and use it as a reference. If it's not cracked I would expect it's worth possibly 50% more than the original Broomhandle ones. $500 and up anyway.
 
From the description in the first post, I assume that the stock is matching numbers to the pistol. Stocked Mausers command a good price, this set is much less common that a Mauser set. As saleable? I don't know.
While 9mm Browning Long factory ammunition isn't all that common, it is easy enough for a handloader to make.
 
It would make it more shootable, the alteration would not help collector value.
.380 can be store bought, 9mm Browning Long can be made by simply trimming .38 Super or .38 ACP cases, and loading.
 
alright. well im going to go look at it this Thursday. i guess i will post a update then.

Shoulder stock doesn't have any cracks just nicks.
 
Ist off, .380 does not improve the value on this one.
2 nd your pictures suck, I can't tell what the condition
is like, but any way
Blue book ( I should get a coffee for this)1903-FN
USA prices: standard gun : 350.-500.oo 60-90% orignal condition.
Add 100% if slotted for stock - beware of fakes
The Orignal shoulder stock is $1000.oo to 1250.oo without the extended mag.
[B]With the extended mag [/B]$1650.oo- 1850.oo Plus the price of the gun. He had better find that mag. ( Bet it was sold to some SOB because
it was big)
Of course, we are in Canada and take those prices with a grain of salt.
My advice - Buy it if the price is O.K.
Someone offers you 400.oo-500.oo, tell them to piss off.
( that is my offer:p)
Marshall
 
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