Milsurp Values During Difficult Year.

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Okay we're in the begining of an economic world depression, and we are owners of Milsurp Stuff. Some has little cash value, others have great value. Shooting/Collecting is a fun sport/hobby, but has recently received some burdens from some politicians here, and soon again US side according to El balma.
Will some rarer vintage military rifles go up in value? I think they are. What about about the common old bolt action rifle, which some are at cash par with new sporters?
Black powder antiques I have seen drop in the last year, lots of deals out there. What about investing in these fun old timers?
Will ammo continue to go up? In the U.S. rumours of heavy tariffs and taxes on ammunition sales with most states agreeing with El balma to do this. It is hard enough now to find and shoot cheap surplus ammo!
Accoutrements for our collections. Will they continue to rise in value or are they starting to drop? The much sought after 98K, Type 99, and new enfield slings are still rising, while the Third Reich daggers, uniforms etc. are dropping fast.
So any good opinions on our sport/hobby reguarding Milsurp arms, ammo and accessories as investments during a difficult year.
 
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IMHO

The cost of any firearms equipment to continue rise due to US restrictions and paranoia. Dealers will panic as they do not want to get burned again if the CDN dollar rises again. The lack of cash will slow the sales of used/military/antique firearms in general. Deals will be out there.. New firearms will rise in cost and tarrifs/fees to import rise combined with the weaker dollar. In general the economic crisis, higher import fees, weaker dollar, and smaller market as the consumner tightne thier belt will cause higher prices.

With a potential 400,000 jobs on the line if the big three fall (and you know they will be atleast half of where they are now at the min) There will be less money/time to buy hobby items and rec sporting equipment.

Pete
 
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Yea, but if things get tight for some, there may be a flood of Mil Surplus rifles on the market (those that own them, but don't really collect them) to raise cash, and prices could take a sharp drop..... ;)
 
We've been through similar circumstances before. At first there will be a few selling at what seem to be fair deals, then prices will decline on certain styles of fierarms. Especially for those just starting out in the job world. Their families needs will come first.

Then depending on how long this situation lasts, sales of new guns will start to falter and milsurps sales will almost come to a halt, except for the very best of them, which will hold their values quite well. The mediocre stuff will lose value as they start to become more prolific on the market. The same will happen with sporters and quality scopes. When construction and other high paying jobs decline, there will be many good deals out there, especially if this recession is protracted beyond 2 years.

Just IMHO of course, but that is what has happened in similar situations in the past. You can look at and fondle a rifle, but if you can't hunt with it and you can't eat it, selling it is the onl option.

bearhunter
 
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I just sold the No4 Mk2 Enfield I had up for grabs in the EE section... So there's apparently still a few of us willing to ignore the global financial context when it comes to satisfying our desire for more milsurps!
 
If the last three gun shows down here are any indication,folks are still too "Proud" of their rifles. Prices have gone up, not down. And as for "antiques" I don't even bother to ask as they are out of my price range.
 
I can't afford the real expensive ones anyway so what I'll loose on them would be minimal.

since I've caught some sort of lee-enfield(read heroin) addiction over the last year, my problem is going to be not spending every last cent I have in the next while in order to have some cash to buy bargains should they appear over the next couple years...

Now let's see, food or gun this month.... Since I'm a little overweight anyway, does anyone have a nice SMLE?
 
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If the last three gun shows down here are any indication,folks are still too "Proud" of their rifles. Prices have gone up, not down. And as for "antiques" I don't even bother to ask as they are out of my price range.
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I agree on that. Some guys are out to lunch on Mil surplus.
 
Okay, our sport/hobby is a hard asset. We can touch, admire, collect, target or hunt shoot, and sell or trade our collections or parts there of. I have my predictions. The rare birds such as original complete sniper rifles, marked accoutrements or uniforms of rare issue or elite units, highest military medals, high demand,unmessed with Katanas, pre revolutionary swords, muskets and pistols will at least stay near present values, and probably still rise. No doubt you can add more to this general more sought after list.
The more common arms, kit etc. well, we shall see, mostly for reasons some of you have eluded to. There will be some good deals.
 
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so I should look at unloading all those crappy bubba No1's I have sitting on my project rack. :)

Perhaps I'll start with the 1916 SSA and if I sell that then the 1918 SSA and I should get a few bucks for the RSAF Enfield 1924 No1 MkIII (no star) :D can't find any production numbers for that year :D

Then again perhaps the more common ones will go first :D
 
Interesting question. I don't expect my Fazakerly Lee Enfield #4 Mk 1 to gain any value personally, but my Lee Enfield #4 Mk1(T) with matching numbers is another story.
 
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