Milsurps still in use

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After viewing Drachenblut's wonderful Swedish m-94/14 carbine restoration, the pics reminded me of photographs of the M-94 still in use (O. Janson author of Swedish Military Rifles 1894 - 1995 reports that they are still used in parades):

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This made me wonder - what other prewar, WW2 and 1950s milsurps are still in front line or ceremonial use? I'm excluding reserves as that would probably mean almost every 20th century milsurp created.

To begin, I'll list two:

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SKS - Honour Guard, Tomb of the Unknown Soldier; Moscow, Russia. (courtesy Wikipedia)

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M1 Garand - Honor guards of Taiwan Armed Forces, Sun Yat-sen Memorial Hall; Taipei, Taiwan. (courtesy Howard61313)

BTW I didn't know how to size these jpegs down so apology given. Thx
 
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Not sure if you consider the Rangers reserves... but they still use the Enfield extensively.
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How about the longest serving front line weapon that I can think of: Browning M2 HB. :50cal:
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With almost as extensive of a service life, many of the originals still in holsters today: Inglis (browning) Hi-Power.
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This photo is probably from the 80's but some Afghan Rebels are still using old bolt action rifles and they turn up in arms caches.
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Many of the "LEE-Enfields" captured in Afghanistan in the 80's during the Soviet occupation were devoid of any markings. The Soviets were shocked to find out that they were all locally made copies, created completely without power tools in Peshawar.






















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tjhaile said:
If they're still in service, are they really milsurps?
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What I'm getting at is with all the black rifles out there, what rifles that might be called a milsurp are making a comeback as front line service rifles (eg M14 in the DMR role) or are still being used as a ceremonial rifle as the Garand in honour guards or drill teams.

The M85 is a nice example of a milsurp used as a modern front service weapon. The basic design is over a hundred years old and probably hasn't been produced in quantity for 60 years. And its still used by Finnish Army snipers!
 
Milsurps still in use.

Hawkshadow said:
Not sure if you consider the Rangers reserves... but they still use the Enfield extensively.
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Sorry by reserves I was meaning the rifles not the members. Russia in its former configuaration as the Soviet Union supposedly kept everything made that was not used in front line service in reserve. Canada in contrast, scrapped their FN C1A1s instead of putting them into reserve.

The Rangers - well they use the Lee Enfield as its a better choice up north than the C7. Most would consider the LE a milsurp.

How about the longest serving front line weapon that I can think of: Browning M2 HB. :50cal:
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John Browning got it right from the start - not sure though if I'd call it a milsurp though as its always been in front line service. But hey this is just a thread to generate some discussion and post pics so thx for your input. :stirthepot2:
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In use

One of the greatest Sniper rifles made, the "Arctic Predator". In Bosnia, all three warring factions made use of the Swedish m/41B Sniper rifle.

The Government had to practically pry the last m96 Swedish Mauser away from some of the Home Guard people in 1996. 100 years of active service.

The Moisin Nagant 91/30 Sniper rifle is regularly encountered.

The 98 Mauser in various calibres is still in use.

How about the Colt M1911 automatic pistol, and the M1 Carbine?
 
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One of the greatest Sniper rifles made, the "Arctic Predator". In Bosnia, all three warring factions made use of the Swedish m/41B Sniper rifle.

The Government had to practically pry the last m96 Swedish Mauser away from some of the Home Guard people in 1996. 100 years of active service.

The Moisin Nagant 91/30 Sniper rifle is regularly encountered.

The 98 Mauser in various calibres is still in use.

How about the Colt M1911 automatic pistol, and the M1 Carbine?
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For sure on the M1 carbine. I'll bet its still in front line use in the military and police units of some Asian countries - the Phillipines perhaps.

I did not know that about the m/41B - any idea of what scopes were in use on the Bosnian rifles? Swedes equipped them with AGAs and Ajacks originally.
 
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Slædepatruljen Sirius (Sirius Sledge Patrol) or informally Siriuspatruljen (Sirius Patrol) is a unique elite Danish navy unit that conducts long-range reconnaissance patrolling and enforces Danish sovereignty in Northern and Eastern Greenland, an area that includes the largest national park in the world. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sl%C3%A6depatruljen_Sirius)
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I read about the above unit in a Glock Autopistols magazine. The article was about them using the Glock 20 because they needed a really durable pistol that could function reliably in very cold climates. I know the Glock 20 isn't a milsurp but in the same article they mentioned the Slædepatruljen Sirius use the U.S. Rifle Model 1917 .30-06 because it was one of the only rifles that could function in the extreme climate in which they patrol.
 
I wonder if there are any pictures of the MP40 and Walther P38/P1 that show it still in use today.

I understand the Germans still use the Kar98K in the same way as honour guards in the US use M1s, M1903s and M14s.
 
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