Minimum overall length for manufactured rifles

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Shelbyguy67

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So as I understand it, shotguns (without rifling) can have a barrel length of as little as 8.5". I have seen short barrelled rifles like the Chiappa available with a 12" barrel from the manufacturer.

I believe the minimum length of a legal, non-restricted firearm is 24" from the manufacturer. Can anyone confirm this or give me some additional information?

Shortening/modifying a rifle barrel to a length less than 18" (shotgun) or 18.5" (rifle) is illegal, however, buying a factory produced rifle of shorter length is legal. Overall length of 36" must also be maintained when modifying a long gun... as I understand it.
 
prohibited firearm means

(a) a handgun that

(i) has a barrel equal to or less than 105 mm in length, or

(ii) is designed or adapted to discharge a 25 or 32 calibre cartridge,

but does not include any such handgun that is prescribed, where the handgun is for use in international sporting competitions governed by the rules of the International Shooting Union,

(b) a firearm that is adapted from a rifle or shotgun, whether by sawing, cutting or any other alteration, and that, as so adapted,

(i) is less than 660 mm in length, or

(ii) is 660 mm or greater in length and has a barrel less than 457 mm in length,

(c) an automatic firearm, whether or not it has been altered to discharge only one projectile with one pressure of the trigger, or

(d) any firearm that is prescribed to be a prohibited firearm; (arme à feu prohibée)



<http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/C-46/page-19.html#h-38>
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Criminal Code (R.S.C., 1985, c. C-46)
<http://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/C-46/>
 
Shelbyguy67 said:
So as I understand it, shotguns (without rifling) can have a barrel length of as little as 8.5". I have seen short barrelled rifles like the Chiappa available with a 12" barrel from the manufacturer.

I believe the minimum length of a legal, non-restricted firearm is 24" from the manufacturer. Can anyone confirm this or give me some additional information?

Shortening/modifying a rifle barrel to a length less than 18" (shotgun) or 18.5" (rifle) is illegal, however, buying a factory produced rifle of shorter length is legal. Overall length of 36" must also be maintained when modifying a long gun... as I understand it.
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You really need to read the firearms regulations, as your post indicates that you don't understand them.
 
0faustus0 said:
Wow, now that is smart !!
A guy is asking for help with understanding the regulations and the conclusion is that he does not understand the regulations!!
I take my hat off ....
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In case you didn't notice, I suggested that he read the regulations, as his post makes it obvious that he hasn't done so. :p:p

http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/fs-fd/clas-eng.htm

Now if a person has access to a computer/phone to post on this forum, the logical thing would be to look up the actual legislation, and if after reading the regulations, he still cant figure it out, then ask here for clarifications.
 
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stubblejumper said:
In case you didn't notice, I suggested that he read the regulations, as his post makes it obvious that he hasn't done so. :p:p

http://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/cfp-pcaf/fs-fd/clas-eng.htm

Now if a person has access to a computer/phone to post on this forum, the logical thing would be to look up the actual legislation, and if after reading the regulations, he still cant figure it out, then ask here for clarifications.
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Well, I have read the regulations .... but I am still not any smarter ... :-(

Wouldn't it be nice if I could ask for help here on this forum .... wouldn't you agree?
 
stubblejumper said:
He didn't ask any questions, and if he didn't learn a single thing by reading the regulations, the odds are good that he wouldn't understand the answers to any questions that he might ask either.:p
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Can you answer my and the OP's questions? That would be much appreciated ....
That would help us to understand the regulations .... Thank you.
 
0faustus0 said:
Can you answer my and the OP's questions? That would be much appreciated ....
That would help us to understand the regulations .... Thank you.
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I’m pretty sure if you where to go to the RCMP web site and look it up you would find the answer to the question you want someone to answer for you.

Reminds me of Monty Python and the Holly Grail and the Bridge of Death, but that’s a story for another night.



rifleman762 said:
The RCMP doesn't understand the law. Why should gunnutz be expected to? :)
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I’m pretty sure the GD Members of the RCMP understand the stupidity of the laws as written, but being Sworn Officers to uphold the Laws of Canada , they just follow the logic as silly as it is and get the job done.

Tight Groups,
Rob
 
0faustus0 said:
Can you answer my and the OP's questions? That would be much appreciated ....
That would help us to understand the regulations .... Thank you.
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Perhaps you might find someone that can translate the regulations into words that you can understand in the black and green shotgun forum? As for the OP, he used "rifle" in his thread title, but then asked about shotguns. By the way, it really doesn't matter whether the barrel is rifled or not, as far as the regulations are concerned. As for the 24", I have no idea where he came up with that, it certainly wasn't in the regulations. I could understand 660mm being posted, as that is mentioned in the regulations, and it is an important number when interpreting the regulations.
 
There is no minimum length for a manual action firearm to be non-restricted. However, if the firearm is designed or redesigned to be operated with one hand, it becomes a handgun. If a manufacturer made a lever action with a 2" barrel and short stock, and it wasn't deemed to be a handgun, it would be Non-Restricted.
 
0faustus0 said:
Well, I have read the regulations .... but I am still not any smarter ... :-(

Wouldn't it be nice if I could ask for help here on this forum .... wouldn't you agree?
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Thank you for this. At least there is one reasonable person on here that can understand I want some help understanding the regs.
 
And those regulations are soooooo simple and clear .....

https://nfa.ca/legal-issue/barrel-and-firearms-lengths/


And how I love it when he writes ....

"You may be forced to defend the legality of what you have, or have done, in a court of law — at heavy expense — because some police officer does NOT understand all the above technicalities. You may even be convicted — because some JUDGE does not understand firearms law. "
 
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FLHTCUI said:
I’m pretty sure if you where to go to the RCMP web site and look it up you would find the answer to the question you want someone to answer for you.

Reminds me of Monty Python and the Holly Grail and the Bridge of Death, but that’s a story for another night.





I’m pretty sure the GD Members of the RCMP understand the stupidity of the laws as written, but being Sworn Officers to uphold the Laws of Canada , they just follow the logic as silly as it is and get the job done.

Tight Groups,
Rob
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5 bucks ;) What was this thread about again?
 
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