minimum required clearance between scope and gun

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I have always mounted optics as low as possible on my rifles, and have the gigantic collection of spare scope rings in every size/type/height that goes with that mild obsession. Perfection in my eye is an objective bell the clears the barrel by no more than 1/8-inch, combined with an eyepiece just barely allows the bolt handle to cycle properly with no contact. My guns are hunting rifles, not target guns. I don't take shots at extreme long range, and I strive for a rifle/scope combo that gives me a good consistent cheekweld that places my eye squarely centered behind the eyepiece; I rarely give parallax a thought and it is never a problem.

Now, we've all seen the hi-speed videos played in slo-mo that illustrate a gun barrel flailing like a bullwhip when a shot is fired. I've often wondered about just how much clearance is required to avoid contact during the firing cycle. Has anyone seen any measurements that clearly quantify just how much space is enough? I've recently mounted a scope onto a rifle using low rings, and it is a delight to shoulder that gun and eyeball a target through that scope with my cheek lounging on the buttstock...but the gap between the power change ring and the Weaver rail is so tiny that a sheet of quality printer paper slides through with some slight resistance. The rail is dished out on top to allow for increased utility of the iron sights, and the curve of the zoom ring hangs down into that little trough...otherwise it wouldn't fit at all. To be specific, the gun is a BLR takedown equipped with a barrel-mounted scout rail. The scope is a Leupold variable-power 1.5-4x28mm scout, and for correct eye relief the scope is mounted so that the eyepiece just clears the rear of the rail while the zoom ring is right over it.

This may be the most sensually perfect matching of gun and scope that I have ever experienced. :) Is it too perfect...er, too close? :)
 
I'm with you on the 1/8" max. Drives me crazy to see a 3-9 in high rings. For your application, since the scout rail is attached to the barrel, the scope should "whip" with the barrel?
 
you could get one of the funny Leupolds or grind the barrel down a bit :rolleyes:
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It's pretty darn low on the Steyr Scout...

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It's may be low, but still looks pretty high from the barrel on that one. I'm not familiar with that gun, but it looks close to the rail/top of the stock not the barrel.

On second look maybe that is part of the barrel technically, but that looks crazy thick, I doubt that is going to move like a normal barrel could.
 
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I have that exact rifle/scope combo (although not with those horrid Steyr rings anymore) and it isn't really relevant here; the scope is mounted on an extension of the receiver, while the barrel is floated beneath that. The barrel is pencil-thin, so it probably has as much whipping motion as any, but it extends forward through an opening at the front with very little clearance, and there seems to be no problem with interference.

I think DMS1 has it right: the scope is attached to the scout mount, right at the breech end, so it seems pretty stiff and motion-free. I have put over 100 rounds through it in the past few days...sighting in, checking for return-to-zero, and just generally playing with the set-up. For a good number of those shots, I had a couple sheets of paper stuck in between the scope bell and the mount; it actually required a slight amount of pressure to pull the two sheets into position. After shooting a few times, I removed the paper and it showed no signs of having been compressed, so I think I'm golden with this rig. Just for comparison, this set-up is much, much tighter than that huge gap visible in the above pics of the Steyr Scout. :)
 
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