Mock suppressor

Sparky369

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Hey guys awhile back there was a group doing some mock suppressors and I would like to look into getting one made but can't find them. Are they still around or anyone know of an alternative?

Jesse
 
To be tacticool. Isn't that reason enough?

Some have factory threaded barrels to get length around the prohib classification: G19, P239, PPQ Navy are probably in this category.
 
Go to Black and Green rifles forum, and look to my thread there.

And the rest of you, do it too. Post pictures and general knowledge. I find this is a common question here in Canadaland.
 
Probably won't think it's so funny if it's a cop after somebody calls 'em. Being tacticool tends to attract unwanted attention.
 
Probably won't think it's so funny if it's a cop after somebody calls 'em. Being tacticool tends to attract unwanted attention.

Shucks Ive been pull over ( other stupid reason ) I had my AR in the trunk coming back from the range, I had nothing to hide, He wanted to see ( I had nothing to hide ) saw it, told him its a mock. I un threaded it, Showed up and bam, that was that.

My doors never got kicked down because pictures of a fake suppressor on any of my guns.
 
Here's a question...what if someone (wealthy...so sadly not me:( ) had the ability(s) to have an upper (NR part) made/designed to fit on your standard (restricted) AR type lower that was made from the ground up with a barrel where as a result of it's unique design, the sound ends up being suppressed anyway with no add on's?

This would not be a modification as again, the entire upper (not just barrel) would be designed from the ground up and the upper is not a controlled part. I'm not looking for legal advice, just people's thoughts on how this hypothetical situation would play out?

Your thoughts...?
 
Here's a question...what if someone (wealthy...so sadly not me:( ) had the ability(s) to have an upper (NR part) made/designed to fit on your standard (restricted) AR type lower that was made from the ground up with a barrel where as a result of it's unique design, the sound ends up being suppressed anyway with no add on's?

This would not be a modification as again, the entire upper (not just barrel) would be designed from the ground up and the upper is not a controlled part. I'm not looking for legal advice, just people's thoughts on how this hypothetical situation would play out?

Your thoughts...?

RCMP have decided that anything which reduces sound by more than 4 dB will be classed as a Prohib Device regardless of what it may have been designed to do.
 
I'm sure if you put a sleeve over some of the muzzle breaks in the market you would drop more than 4db. Such a dumb law, would be so nice to save my hearing while hunting. ..
 
I'm sure if you put a sleeve over some of the muzzle breaks in the market you would drop more than 4db. Such a dumb law, would be so nice to save my hearing while hunting. ..

It doesn't. In my design work I have tested a number of different sleeve configurations etc and as long as they don't have a serious constriction at the front, the sleeve does not produce significant sound reduction. I am careful to make sure my stuff doesn't exceed the deemed limit. Can't say that of others.
 
RCMP have decided that anything which reduces sound by more than 4 dB will be classed as a Prohib Device regardless of what it may have been designed to do.

Interesting. Considering that nothing in law denotes any specific reduction in the level of sound suppression, then on what basis have the RCMP come up with a 4 db number? Is this something they've put into writing as a matter of "policy" because to the best of my knowledge it is not in any kind of legislated "regulations".

On another note, if something wasn't designed to reduce the level of sound but clearly does, how is that in contravention of actual written law?

I know you're not a lawyer but you do have a great deal of working knowledge in the field. Care to comment?
 
Interesting. Considering that nothing in law denotes any specific reduction in the level of sound suppression, then on what basis have the RCMP come up with a 4 db number? Is this something they've put into writing as a matter of "policy" because to the best of my knowledge it is not in any kind of legislated "regulations".

On another note, if something wasn't designed to reduce the level of sound but clearly does, how is that in contravention of actual written law?

I know you're not a lawyer but you do have a great deal of working knowledge in the field. Care to comment?

You are correct. There is nothing in the law that specifies a dB limit. ATF uses 3 dB as a limit so the RCMP have apparently adopted an unofficial limit in the same range. Like the dewat rules this is someone making stuff up.

The problem is they kinda have to do something to prevent someone making silencers and calling them flash hiders to circumvent the law. It is the result of a badly written law.
 
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