Models 88 & 100 From 1963

I'm young enough that I missed most of it. Loved pouring over the old school Outdoor Life and Field and Stream magazines when I was a kid though. McManus, Carmichael, and Zumbo in their prime made for some fine reading.

I did the same most were at the local barber shop, you don't see that now
 
I have a pre 64 M88 in 308 from my dad, and a post 64 M100 also in 308 from my wife's father. The M88 has some issues right now, it is ripping the heads right off the brass on ejection, the M100 hasn't been shot since my father in law passed in '13, I am hoping my wife and sister in law allow me to keep it for one of our boys. Anyone have any ideas what the M88 problems could be? It was reloads on some older Dominion brass so the first step is to try some new factory loads and see how it reacts, if I get the same results I will be dropping it off at a competent smith who can maybe figure it out.
 
Those Winchesters were not a bad deal, however..... in 1963 if you made $10,000 a year, you were getting near the top of the heap.

Gasoline was less than 30 cents a gallon.

You could buy a brand new 4X4 truck for $3500.

It cost 4 cents to mail a letter, and 2 cents to mail a postcard.

Bread was 15 cents a loaf, and tasted great!

My UWO tuition cost $1600/ year, not per semester.

You could buy a very fine home for less than $20,000. Lots of them were $15,000.

And, ready for this, we never locked the doors when we were gone!

Ted
 
I have a pre 64 M88 in 308 from my dad, and a post 64 M100 also in 308 from my wife's father. The M88 has some issues right now, it is ripping the heads right off the brass on ejection, the M100 hasn't been shot since my father in law passed in '13, I am hoping my wife and sister in law allow me to keep it for one of our boys. Anyone have any ideas what the M88 problems could be? It was reloads on some older Dominion brass so the first step is to try some new factory loads and see how it reacts, if I get the same results I will be dropping it off at a competent smith who can maybe figure it out.

Crashman, if a rifle chamber has even a slight bit of rust, it will sometimes do that.

Have you tried polishing the chamber? An old bronze bristle brush wrapped with plenty of 000 or finer steel wool that is soaked with oil has worked wonders in every chamber I have used it on.

Just go slow, and check the steel wool often. It is amazing how much rust can come out on the wool.

Ted
 
Crashman, if a rifle chamber has even a slight bit of rust, it will sometimes do that.

Have you tried polishing the chamber? An old bronze bristle brush wrapped with plenty of 000 or finer steel wool that is soaked with oil has worked wonders in every chamber I have used it on.

Just go slow, and check the steel wool often. It is amazing how much rust can come out on the wool.

Ted

Thanks Ted, I will try that. The rifle did the same thing a few years back with another hand load so I think it is developing a bit of problem/habit here. I will polish the chamber as suggested and then try some decent factory ammo or mild reloads with new brass and see what it does. It is a nice old rifle and it actually belongs to my oldest son so I would really like to get it back in working order for him so he can maybe take some game with his grandfather's rifle.
 
Those Winchesters were not a bad deal, however..... in 1963 if you made $10,000 a year, you were getting near the top of the heap.

Gasoline was less than 30 cents a gallon.

You could buy a brand new 4X4 truck for $3500.

It cost 4 cents to mail a letter, and 2 cents to mail a postcard.

Bread was 15 cents a loaf, and tasted great!

My UWO tuition cost $1600/ year, not per semester.

You could buy a very fine home for less than $20,000. Lots of them were $15,000.

And, ready for this, we never locked the doors when we were gone!

Ted

where-a-bouts? Just curious! My Dad bought a house in big town SK for $6000 in 1962. 2 bedroom bungalow full unfinished basement. Prolly was a 25 ft lot, narrow, but had some deepth. I used to make a skating/hockey rink in the back yard!
 
For a few years almost our entire hunt camp used a model 100, they were great rifles but sometimes fussy on ammo.

The 100s definitely did the job especially if you were party hunting and two or more bucks popped up at the same time.
By the time you levered another round with a 94 the second buck would be gone but with a semi and a little skill both would be on the ground.
We owned several 94s and generally they were more accurate than any 100 we owned.
A couple of our 94s (coincidentally the ones we kept;)) would do 1" 3 shot groups @ 100 yards all day long off benched sandbags.
People don't often equate levers and accuracy but some of those old 94s were very accurate.
 
Crashman, if a rifle chamber has even a slight bit of rust, it will sometimes do that.

Have you tried polishing the chamber? An old bronze bristle brush wrapped with plenty of 000 or finer steel wool that is soaked with oil has worked wonders in every chamber I have used it on.

Just go slow, and check the steel wool often. It is amazing how much rust can come out on the wool.

Ted

Sounds like rust might be the cause especially if the chamber was machined rough in the first place.
A chamber polishing certainly won't hurt.
Or it could be a worn or dirty (impacted dirt/grease in the extractor groove) extractor.
I'd scope the chamber first and then look at the other possibility.
Those 88s are like the BLR and the Finnwolf and are actually lever actuated bolt actions and share some of the same extraction issues as true bolt actions.
 
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Some people slop too much oil on guns based on the false paradigm that some is good so a lot more is better.
The oil attracts dust, rust, powder residue and over the years impacts and hardens in places like extractor grooves and interferes/prevents functionality.
An extractor should last many years of normal use before wearing out.
They'll get dirt encrusted and malfunction long before they wear where too much oil is habitually used on a gun.
A gun should be stripped completely down and thoroughly cleaned once a year.
 
Thanks Waba I thought as much. My 100 is in 243. and I am going to work it over this spring before the bugs hatch. cheers
 
where-a-bouts? Just curious! My Dad bought a house in big town SK for $6000 in 1962. 2 bedroom bungalow full unfinished basement. Prolly was a 25 ft lot, narrow, but had some deepth. I used to make a skating/hockey rink in the back yard!

That was in Weston, Ontario, now part of Metro Toronto. Lot was more like 60 ft wide, and we did flood a rink in the back yard every winter.

Behind that was a field with apple and pear trees in it. :)

Behind that was bush.
Ted
 
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