Montreal Home guard Savage.

[jimmerp]

What is known about these rifles? Educate me.

 

[Ganderite]

I saw one in a pawn shop in Montreal in 1958. $125. I passed. Too much work to make it into a good sporter.

 

[tech551]

The book "Allied Rifle Contracts in America" by Luke Mercado will educate you on those rifles. A complete chapter is dedicated to them. Other rifles covered are:
The Model 1891 Mosin-Nagant;
The Winchester Model 1895 Russian Musket;
The Model 1889 Belgian Mauser;
The Enfield Pattern 1914 (P14);
The Remington Model 99 single shot; and
The Model 1907-1915 Berthier rifle.

 

[jimmerp]

The book "Allied Rifle Contracts in America" by Luke Mercado will educate you on those rifles. A complete chapter is dedicated to them. Other rifles covered are:
The Model 1891 Mosin-Nagant;
The Winchester Model 1895 Russian Musket;
The Model 1889 Belgian Mauser;
The Enfield Pattern 1914 (P14);
The Remington Model 99 single shot; and
The Model 1907-1915 Berthier rifle.

Thank you for the reference.

 

[jimmerp]

I saw one in a pawn shop in Montreal in 1958. $125. I passed. Too much work to make it into a good sporter.

Lot of money in 58

 

[mbogo3]

Savage did make 99's in .303 Savage /full length wood and bayonet for the Montreal Home Guard is it these to which you refer?

 

[tiriaq]

I have a sported MHG Savage. Unfortunately bubba sanded off the name of the original owner.

 

[jimmerp]

Savage did make 99's in .303 Savage /full length wood and bayonet for the Montreal Home Guard is it these to which you refer?

Yes

 

[jimmerp]

I have a sported MHG Savage. Unfortunately bubba sanded off the name of the original owner.

I don't think all of them had the name put on them. Although I know some did. What is the rack number on yours?

 

[Accumulator]

A lot of the 1899D’s MHG were converted to a sporter when deemed surplus . The name of the Montreal gunsmith escapes me , possibly Frazer & Company ( according to Joe Salter) , but many were converted in the same way and fashion by this gunsmith . Top wood removed . Barrel bands and bayo / nosecap removed , and the underwood fashioned into a schnabel type end . Parts to restore in Canada are extremely hard to find . Generally involves in investing in numerous rifles to assemble one . Here’s a pic of a “ Montreal “ conversion .

 

[Accumulator]

Here’s a few pics of a “ real one “ 1900-20’s vintage Mills cartridge belt for artistic flare

 

[Ganderite]

The understanding was that these rifles were made for the Vermont Militia, and when that deal fell through, they went to Montreal.

 

[jimmerp]

Interesting, I would wonder about the circumstances around the original order. Who approached whom, was it Savage with a bunch of spare stock with no buyer approaching the various HG units? I have heard that you didnt have to get a Savage if you didnt want one. You could supply your own rifle.

 

[DRE369]

The understanding was that these rifles were made for the Vermont Militia, and when that deal fell through, they went to Montreal.

IF anyone finds one with the name "FARVA" on it, there's good money to be had.

 

[jimmerp]

Explain?

 

[Northshore]

Does anyone know if there is a list of the peoples names who were enlisted in the MHG?

 

[CMichaud]

Salter.com has a sporterized MHG Savage for $995USD

There was also a Quebec Home Guard that used old Mausers. Salter.ca has one for sale. It is a 71/84

 

[tiriaq]

I don't think all of them had the name put on them. Although I know some did. What is the rack number on yours?

I cannot see a rack number.

 

[jimmerp]

I cannot see a rack number.

On the buttplate is where they were stamped

 

[tiriaq]

On the buttplate is where they were stamped

769.

Forend is cut, swivel is on a band. Rear sight gone, very nice tang sight installed. Rifle is in fine condition, apart from the alterations and removal of the name.