more than the caliber which platform you consider for dangerous game and your own exp

Yes, much different application however, for every job there’s the right tool we should know that here with all our gun application and bear defense debates. It’s like saying hunters should drive rally cars afield because they’re higher performance, or drywallers should use framing nail guns because they’re faster.

For dangerous game the right tool is a fast pointing dead reliable firearm of rather extraordinary power, capable of delivering two to five large rounds rapidly in a quick pointing, easy handling package. Ideally it should be as light as possible for caliber so it’s carried in the hands. High volume shooting, multiple targets that need fire suppression, and extended range are not at all important for dangerous game.

Most dangerous game rifles receive far more severe duty in PH / guides hands than military firearms, I’m aware that’ll receive a few guffaws here but it’s true. Military firearm get more routine care and cleaning, or if heavily used in combat without cleaning are likely to go back to an armourer or be switched out years ahead of the PHs rifle. If you don’t believe me ask for a pic of my ATC Glock 10mm from outfitting. Many of the famous PH rifles serve decades unserviced, see Harry Selby’s .416 Rigby, it hunted dangerous game until the bore was so shot out it keyholed- that takes some doing in a .416 and about forty rather neglected years afield. Then it got a new barrel and went back to work.

Semis could work, not against them, but they’d offer me little in a work rifle and increase the complexity of the gun over a good double or bolt. Generally they’re harder to carry chamber loaded and safe too.

Issues related to gun maintenance is nothing new. The deplorable condition that some people keep their guns in mystifies me; in some cases they'd take better care of an axe. This is the devise they purchase for life saving, often the least expensive model on the rack, yet I've had guns brought to me that had to be disassembled before their actions could be freed up, due to the accumulation of dust and rust which turned to cement. If the gun doesn't cycle, it can't fulfill its role as a life saving device. This is a separate issue from the question of which rifle or shotgun action is the most suitable in terms of reliability, balance, and ergonomics.

Unlike some of the current crop of bolt action, the modern self-loading rifle can be disassembled and maintained without a toolbox, or worse, a machine shop. This is beneficial because ease of assembly/disassembly encourages good maintenance practices in the field. I'm not talking about removing copper fouling from the bore, rather just keeping the mating surfaces clean, free of dirt and debris, and lubricated as required. The harsher the environment, the more important maintenance becomes. Just because a gun will work when neglected doesn't mean it should have to, sooner or later the diminished tolerances will no longer allow cycling. Actions that have various components retained with tiny pins and springs are not conducive with maintenance in the field. The military has always insisted upon good maintenance procedures because they understand its importance to reliability, even when bolt actions where the arms of freedom. Most dangerous game bolt guns differ little from the old 98 and K98k Mausers, due to their reliability and ease of maintenance, but they are not the only solution.

In terms of reliability, a novice may find the auto-loader a better choice than a gun with a manual action. The term "short stroking" is not usually experienced by experts, but it is possible with any reciprocating manual action. When a shotgun is used in defensive shooting, the solid forearm of the auto-loader is more conducive to accurate shooting than the wobbly forearm on a pump gun, although with 3000-5000 repetitions "they" say we can learn to use almost anything. Guns which can be easily field stripped down to their major components, wiped clean then reassembled encourage maintenance. Maintained guns tend to be more reliable than non-maintained guns.

While dangerous game cartridges tend to have large rims, the bottle neck examples are not typically larger than the rim of the Russian 7.62x54R that was chambered in the both military and commercial auto-loading rifles. Therefore it cannot be said that modern auto-loaders are not suitable for out-sized cartridges. As a group, the auto-loader has suffered from poor triggers, but there have been notable exceptions, such as the Garand, and AR platform rifles. Therefore, a decent trigger in a modern auto-loading sporting rifle does not seem unobtainable. Modern auto-loading rifles as a group tend to be more ergonomic than their manual action counterparts. Beyond aiming, you need only be concerned with the safety, on or off, and pressing the trigger, continuity of fire is looked after for you. An open port bolt action has the advantage if you need top top off the magazine; you won't be able to add rounds to the modern auto-loader without removing the magazine, although this isn't an issue with the Garand, FN-49, or similar rifles.
 
With enough cash the idea of double barrel bolt action appeals to me.

And it is one nice firearm as icing on the cake.

Szecsei & Fuchs bolt action double rifle both side by side, and over and under configurations.
Calibers .470 .416 Remington Magnum .375 Holland & Holland Magnum 9.3x62mm, 8x68S, 30/06 down to .17 HMR.

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For hunting at at reasonable distance a rem 700 custom shop 416 rem mag.


In a life or death situation where a round has to be placed exactly where it needs to be fast up close. Pass me a 9.3 on a Browning 20 ga frame O/U.
 
My Model 70 in 458 has exactly 123 buffalo to its credit, and about 20 others that someone else started the show on. While it's fun to remember other things that have worked; and speculate about others that might even work better, it's a little hard to imagine that it wouldn't scratch down a few more if it had to.
 
Is that the mag fed rifle you posted in a previous thread? Very nice :)

My Model 70 in 458 has exactly 123 buffalo to its credit, and about 20 others that someone else started the show on. While it's fun to remember other things that have worked; and speculate about others that might even work better, it's a little hard to imagine that it wouldn't scratch down a few more if it had to.
 
With enough cash the idea of double barrel bolt action appeals to me.

And it is one nice firearm as icing on the cake.

Szecsei & Fuchs bolt action double rifle both side by side, and over and under configurations.
Calibers .470 .416 Remington Magnum .375 Holland & Holland Magnum 9.3x62mm, 8x68S, 30/06 down to .17 HMR.

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Szecsei-Fuchs-Double-Barrel-Bolt-Action-Rifles-fuchsfineguns.com-royal1.jpg

A bolt action double barrel rifle in .17 HMR is just about the stupidest idea that I can imagine in a firearm.
 
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