Mosin 91/30 prototype bayonet rifles

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Now that the batch of Mosin 91/30 Semin bayonets have all been sold on the TradeEx website, I was wondering how many of these were recently brought into Canada. Does anyone has an idea?

These look like interesting rifles. I can see in the older threads that another batch was imported to Canada a couple years ago. This looks like a fresh bunch.
 
I have no idea how many came in, but seems to be a few around, the bulk of which were at Tradex. They sat there for a few days and I was a bit puzzled. Seemed like once someone bit, they all went.
 
dagc said:
Now that the batch of Mosin 91/30 Semin bayonets have all been sold on the TradeEx website, I was wondering how many of these were recently brought into Canada. Does anyone has an idea?

These look like interesting rifles. I can see in the older threads that another batch was imported to Canada a couple years ago. This looks like a fresh bunch.
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Very few of these in Canada.

I still have two of them available.
 
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cornelunc said:
This is reality . Swiss k31 was on Tradeex in 2012 for 240$ and now will sell near 1000$. This is just an example.
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Yes and a M91/30 with prototype bayonet isn't the same as a K31. Interest in milsurps tends to tail off at the 800+$ range. At 300$ a K31 was a excellent deal as they are absolutely fantastic rifles (the current long range iron sight world record was made with one). That was also at the initial surplus price when it is hard to get rid of them. After that period the price tends to go up. They also appeal to a wider base of collectors as there are many out there and Swiss firearms are a very popular field to collect and you can't really have much of a Swiss collection without one.

The M91/30 with Semin bayonet is already above that 800+$ price range so a lot of interest is already lost. The fact its nothing really that special, just a M91/30 with a folding bayonet means to most shooters a M91/30 is a better buy as for a fraction of the price you can get the same shooter. Basically the people it would hold interest to is serious collectors of Soviet Arms or Mosin Nagants, and there isn't too many of those in Canada. Coupled with the large supply for such a small serious collector group it really isn't likely to increase in value as they would be the ones driving up the price as they are the ones who would be generating the demand. If anything the price is more likely to deflate for the reasons I listed.
 
I don't know if this particular rifle will go up in price. But set aside collectability for a second.

Price is what you pay. Value is what you have.

A rifle made today with all wood and milled metal parts will cost you thousands of dollars. But we are blessed to buy a M48 for $600, a LE for $900, a K31 for $1000, etc. We are very lucky, very lucky. Are these going to be as accurate as modern CNC made hunting rifles or that $4,500 Blaser? Well, no. But milsurps work from jungle to arctic, and can take way more abuse than a modern hunting rifle in the same price range. Even the Mosin is completely reliable and that's quite a feat considering the awful wartime conditions when a lot were made.

Price and value get mixed up because wasn't long ago when Enfields were $100. But that's like me saying I remember when a house was $10,000 and therefore I'll never pay $350,000 for a house today. (I'm dating myself but I remember 10 cent chocolate bars, but we still buy them at $2.)

My point is milsurps have great utility because these old guns simply work and work, without ever complaining. You never worry about plastic parts breaking. That's great value to me. Your mileage can and will differ but I'm talking for myself only. And we haven't even gotten into the collectibility factor or the fun in taking these to the range.

Obviously enough people thought $900 was good value for the Semin at TradeEx. I don't know what the future price will be. That's a supply and demand question and I'm not smart enough to know the answer.
 
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cornelunc said:
This is reality . Swiss k31 was on Tradeex in 2012 for 240$ and now will sell near 1000$. This is just an example.
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Yeah I paid 350 for mine. This collecting stuff is a pain in the wallet. And a gamble on what's next to hike in price. I think these rifles are "neat" but aren't special enough to worry about adding to the collection.
 
dagc said:
Now that the batch of Mosin 91/30 Semin bayonets have all been sold on the TradeEx website, I was wondering how many of these were recently brought into Canada. Does anyone has an idea?

These look like interesting rifles. I can see in the older threads that another batch was imported to Canada a couple years ago. This looks like a fresh bunch.
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they made 15k rifles but the amounts will always be unknow
 
Beverkiller said:
they made 15k rifles but the amounts will always be unknow
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I've heard 20,000 but regardless it was very limited production. Production #'s don't mean much though as it only takes a few hundred to flood a market and whatever they made is still in existence. They made 60 million 91/30s and yet a minty non refurb 91/30 is much harder to find than a 91/30 Semin bayo rifle.
 
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