I have an interesting Mosin 1891 that I'm looking for more info on.
Bear with me, because I'm an "accidental" Milsurp collector, so not that familiar with them except for shooting.
I took it today to my local Military Museum, where the President happens to collect Mosins. He took it apart, and he checked for markings.
Most of the markings were very faded, so hard to distinguish, but he found the following characteristics;
1. No manufacturers stamps on receiver, been "cleaned" (can't remember term he used). Small Proof Commission mark only.
2. Under tang, 2 numbers, in different scrip; "91" and "17".
(Friend's guess is made in 1891, then refurbed 1917.
3. He found a tiny stamp which could indicate Tula.
4. There was an "R" stamped, but not in usual location under receiver, but under the rear sight.
5. The rear sight is the original "Arshin" sight, with the original ranges, ie not changed like when the Finns got them. (marked 4 - 6 - 8 - 10 -12).
6. The front sight is an early Finn sight.
7. The end of the cleaning rod makes it appear to be 1905 Ishevsk M91 (from 7.62x54.net).
8. Sling slots are early version, metal secured with 2 screws, front and rear (from 7.62x54.net).
9. Sling swivels are Russian slots, with Finn hangers.
10. It has normal chamber (not sure what that means).
11. Very faint double circle cartouche on right rear stock with possibly "19" on right side, "16" on left side.
12. It has been counter bored.
My friend thinks this could possibly be a very early rifle, seized from the Russian Arsenals by the Finnish Civic or White Guards, prior to 1920.
Anyone else come across something similar?
Bear with me, because I'm an "accidental" Milsurp collector, so not that familiar with them except for shooting.
I took it today to my local Military Museum, where the President happens to collect Mosins. He took it apart, and he checked for markings.
Most of the markings were very faded, so hard to distinguish, but he found the following characteristics;
1. No manufacturers stamps on receiver, been "cleaned" (can't remember term he used). Small Proof Commission mark only.
2. Under tang, 2 numbers, in different scrip; "91" and "17".
(Friend's guess is made in 1891, then refurbed 1917.
3. He found a tiny stamp which could indicate Tula.
4. There was an "R" stamped, but not in usual location under receiver, but under the rear sight.
5. The rear sight is the original "Arshin" sight, with the original ranges, ie not changed like when the Finns got them. (marked 4 - 6 - 8 - 10 -12).
6. The front sight is an early Finn sight.
7. The end of the cleaning rod makes it appear to be 1905 Ishevsk M91 (from 7.62x54.net).
8. Sling slots are early version, metal secured with 2 screws, front and rear (from 7.62x54.net).
9. Sling swivels are Russian slots, with Finn hangers.
10. It has normal chamber (not sure what that means).
11. Very faint double circle cartouche on right rear stock with possibly "19" on right side, "16" on left side.
12. It has been counter bored.
My friend thinks this could possibly be a very early rifle, seized from the Russian Arsenals by the Finnish Civic or White Guards, prior to 1920.
Anyone else come across something similar?
