Hey guys, I just recently purchase a "new" model 44 carbine and although I really like the gun so far, I am having a problem. The rifle loads individual rounds easily but when I try and use a stripper clip I sometimes can't get even one round in and have never been able to get the whole clip to slide in. Is there a trick to how I load them in the clip? I have tried like an enfield and ever other combination I could think. Could there be a problem with the ejector piece? Also, what is a good price, I am hoping I didn't get taken to the cleaners too bad.
Mosin Nagant M44
- Thread starter FraserJ20
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I hope you have the proper clips. Look at this:
The clip on the right is a surplus clip. They feed properly. Notice how it's ridged and not just bent.
The clip on the left is a repro clip. They feed like crap and are ultimately a waste of time.
If your clips are repros, you may as well throw them out. They're only useful for storing the clips, not for loading.
I've looked all over for ammo still on clips, and it's not worth your time.
I recently bought some clips off a guy here on CGN. His clips are not repro's. They're the good kind. I've examined them myself.
If you'd like to get into contact with him, here's his username if you'd like to send him a PM:
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He's got maybe 80 left? I bought 20.
The clip on the right is a surplus clip. They feed properly. Notice how it's ridged and not just bent.
The clip on the left is a repro clip. They feed like crap and are ultimately a waste of time.
If your clips are repros, you may as well throw them out. They're only useful for storing the clips, not for loading.
I've looked all over for ammo still on clips, and it's not worth your time.
I recently bought some clips off a guy here on CGN. His clips are not repro's. They're the good kind. I've examined them myself.
If you'd like to get into contact with him, here's his username if you'd like to send him a PM:
(((Echo)))
He's got maybe 80 left? I bought 20.
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- Downtown Vancouver, BC
Oh. And load them like this. Overlapping the rims.
I think the trick is to stagger the rims. One on top of the next like stairs. I have tried the stripper clip idea too, without much luck but I did get it to work. I don't know what you mean about "ejector piece". Are you talking about the follower that the rides in the mag and supports the rounds? I have a 1951 Polish m44(plus others) that is great fun and cost under a $100 so I was very happy with that deal. It shot on line and 8'' left at 100yrds. Tried it with bayo out and bayo in and ended up drifting the front sight with a good whack and now it shoots well in either configuration. I'm sure yours will turn out to be a great rifle. Don't worry about the price. That's the cost of admission!.
Don't use the mosin strippers.......they blow.
I can hand load all five rounds and then chamber and fire those five rounds.....long before I could ever load the damn thing with a stripper clip (this applies to Mosin Nagant strippers only)
I'm Not sure about the Finnish Mosin Nagant stripper clips....I think they are different. Maybe, "Claven2" Knows?
I can hand load all five rounds and then chamber and fire those five rounds.....long before I could ever load the damn thing with a stripper clip (this applies to Mosin Nagant strippers only)
I'm Not sure about the Finnish Mosin Nagant stripper clips....I think they are different. Maybe, "Claven2" Knows?
sailorjosh
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I got a bunch of stripper clips off numrich and they work great...here's a video that explains how to load them!
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v.../?action=view¤t=MidWesternShoot2054.flv
EDIT:Not my video, found it on another message board but I can't remember where.
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v.../?action=view¤t=MidWesternShoot2054.flv
EDIT:Not my video, found it on another message board but I can't remember where.
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That video is really good, I'll be sure to try that technique.
My M44 was new and I found that the plate at the bottom left side of the stripper clip slot that holds the rounds in was really sticky with cosmoline. I took it out cleaned it well and polished it a bit. That helped the rounds to feed a bit better.
My M44 was new and I found that the plate at the bottom left side of the stripper clip slot that holds the rounds in was really sticky with cosmoline. I took it out cleaned it well and polished it a bit. That helped the rounds to feed a bit better.
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I've never loaded mine in stacked formation like the Enfield ones, never had to. The receiver on Mosin's has a lever that holds the stack back a bit and lets the top round "float". This allows the rim of the round to free itself from the stack, no matter its arrangement.
Also, you won't be able to get the entire clip into the mag and close the bolt on an empty chamber. The 5th round will always be in the float position, ready for feeding.
sailorjosh's vid shows a good way to load the mag via clips. The other way is the push down on the stack immediately in front of the stripper clip. Try both, see which one works for you.
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Also, you won't be able to get the entire clip into the mag and close the bolt on an empty chamber. The 5th round will always be in the float position, ready for feeding.
sailorjosh's vid shows a good way to load the mag via clips. The other way is the push down on the stack immediately in front of the stripper clip. Try both, see which one works for you.
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I paid $150 for my polish M44 (new with sling). At the last gunshow I went to, I saw a guy pay $350 for his (used, no sling)FraserJ20 said:
. Please tell me you paid less than that! IMHO, $200 would be a good price right now.
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PerversPépère
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The original steel clips usually load correctly. However, I had a bunch of newly made brass ones that were absolutely unusable.
The only use I found for them was to store five 44 Mag rounds in each with a rubber band around to keep them together.
PP.
The only use I found for them was to store five 44 Mag rounds in each with a rubber band around to keep them together.
PP.
The new made ones work like ass.
The best ones out there are ww2 or earlier Russian clips and Finnish Tikka clips. The loading diagram above is correct. Push them in back by the clip, not ahead by the shoulder.
Also, some war era mosins have poorly machined feed lips for the charger guide. If you just can't get it to work, try it on another mosin and see if it's your rifle and not your clip technique.
The best ones out there are ww2 or earlier Russian clips and Finnish Tikka clips. The loading diagram above is correct. Push them in back by the clip, not ahead by the shoulder.
Also, some war era mosins have poorly machined feed lips for the charger guide. If you just can't get it to work, try it on another mosin and see if it's your rifle and not your clip technique.
Yah, as Ilovepotatoes showed, the old true milsurp clips are way better quality than the repro ones. The only thing to watch out for in the originals is that the bent edges on the originals are really really stiff, so it'll be hard to get the rounds to start off the clip. Use seems to solve that problem.
