Mosin Nagant M91 Questions!

Drachenblut

Drachenblut

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Hello,

I am the proud owner of an extremely nice condition 1912 Sestroryetsk M91 Mosin Nagant. It is WWI Austro-Hungarian Army capture marked, and Finn Army marked. It resides in an un-marred, un-dented Arctic Birch stock with a war-time dovetail in the middle of the stock. Truly beautiful!

Now, I was planning on taking it apart and came across something I've never seen before... a screw into the wood just fore of the front band, very small and it seems that whoever put it in, used pliers to close the screw slot. I am unsure what to do in this instance... will it damage the collector value to take out this screw temporarily?

Also, there are initials carved into the stock. Right behind the dovetail joint are the initials E.P. and on the buttstock "M". Does anyone have an idea what these could be?

Please enjoy the pictures, questions and discussion welcome!

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Thanks,
Drachenblut
 
That screw in front of the barrel band is normal for an earlier production Finn M91, just a little extra protection to hold the band in place. I don't think it will do any harm to the rifle's collector value to take it out for disassembly purposes. I'm not sure about the initials, but I think they add a lot of character to the weapon. Have you fired it yet? I have a 1941 rebarrelled Tika with a 1917 Izzy receiver and it is the most accurate Milsurp that I own. She has a very sensitive single stage trigger that is amazing-I can hit the 200m gong at my range consistently, much to the dismay of all the expensive Black Rifle owners:D
Best $160 I ever spent!
 
The screw in front of the forward band is a Finnish addition and is suppose to be there. It's purpose is to make sure the band does not slip forward.

Shes a keeper so don't go off selling her :D.
 
Lol. You are funny, comrade. Perhaps I will keep this rifle in excellent condition. I have not fired it yet, however, the bore looks good, minus the literally 3/5 inch counter bore. It is at least 2 inches behind the front site. Rediculous!
 
That "rediculous" counter-bore was made to recoup some accuracy from your Mosin barrel without having to cut it back. It was common practice among the Finn armorers to get rid of some cleaning rod-induced wear.
Your Finn Stock has second model barrel bands. Be careful: they open when screwing in. They tighten back when you UNSCREW the captive bolt. Do not unscrew it too much or you will snap the mushroomed head of that bolt.
The small screws are there to keep the barrel bands from moving. Finns used to set the barrel bands just loose enough to help with barrel harmonics.
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As you mentioned. Good advice, thank you. I have just finished stripping it down completely, every last screw, cleaning, oiling lightly and putting it all back into place as it was. She looks beautiful as before, if not shining with a new healthy coat.
 
Another question, I discovered 2 unique markings on the metal underside. The first is a very small star above a "P" in a small box, stamped right behind the front magazine screw well on the barrel. The second strange thing is a total lack of a rear reciever tang marking. It's not been scrubbed as the bluing is intact, but looks like it was never marked. I've never seen this before?
 
PerversPépère said:
That "rediculous" counter-bore was made to recoup some accuracy from your Mosin barrel without having to cut it back. It was common practice among the Finn armorers to get rid of some cleaning rod-induced wear.
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I have M91 in not as good shape as one above and it also has "counterbore".

This one is very crude,looks like someone just went nuts with 3/8 drill.I didn't think finns could do something that bad.

On other hand rifle shooth fine with 200 Gr casts.I should make and post some pix of it :)
 
The missing tang marking could be an indicator of anything. I have seen Mosins before without tang markings due to one reason or another, most often rushed production. Seeing as your rifle however has undergone refurb the entire receiver/barrel assembly may have been reblued. Could also be as simple as they missed it at the time. If you have some pictures of the receiver without the stock attached we may be able to determine a date of manufacture based upon certain features.

Nice rifle!
 
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