Mosin Nagants

Ok guys, for those who complain about the mosin trigger, lust for huber concepts, etc., here's a tip:

Get pieces of 220 and 400 grit et/dry emery paper and a flat file. Wrap the paper around the file to give you a good flat and consistent sanding block and lightly stone the face of the sear engagement surface on the cocking piece. Once smooth switch to 400 grit. Just do the part the sear touches and make sure you don't round it or alter the angle. Less is more here, just make it smooth.

You will be amazed! I do this to all the mosins I plan to shoot much. Night and day difference.
 
Well guys, thanks a lot, it seems like its gonna be a good gun for me. Just a few minutes after I posted the thread I actually found a web page with probably over 1000 words of some guy swearing by his Chinese made variant of a Nagant. Well, I'll probably get one in the coming weeks. Thanks.
 
I find that if you are the kind of person who likes to work on a rifle, you should be okay with a Mosin.

I have one, and it's advantages are that it is cheap, it takes cheap surplus, it's powerful, and it is easy to clean.

It is moderately accurate. It can shoot about 2.5" at 100 yards on a good day, but more like 3.5" on average.

Its disadvantages are that the bolt is not as smooth as other bolt action rifles, it is very long and unwieldy, and the stock design causes recoil to be more painful. The sights are basic, and require the bayonet to be fixed for proper zero. Using Czech surplus, the steel cases combined with lacquer jam the rifle. I only get reliable extraction with brass cases, and brass ammo is expensive. Sure, I could take a drill with me to the range, and shoot some rounds and then use a cleaning patch with the drill every few rounds. But who has time for that. It takes me an hour to drive to the range and I only have 2 hours there and can only go once or twice a month, so I can't waste time cleaning my chamber with a cordless drill at the range.
 
Unregistered said:
I find that if you are the kind of person who likes to work on a rifle, you should be okay with a Mosin.

I have one, and it's advantages are that it is cheap, it takes cheap surplus, it's powerful, and it is easy to clean.

It is moderately accurate. It can shoot about 2.5" at 100 yards on a good day, but more like 3.5" on average.

Its disadvantages are that the bolt is not as smooth as other bolt action rifles, it is very long and unwieldy, and the stock design causes recoil to be more painful. The sights are basic, and require the bayonet to be fixed for proper zero. Using Czech surplus, the steel cases combined with lacquer jam the rifle. I only get reliable extraction with brass cases, and brass ammo is expensive. Sure, I could take a drill with me to the range, and shoot some rounds and then use a cleaning patch with the drill every few rounds. But who has time for that. It takes me an hour to drive to the range and I only have 2 hours there and can only go once or twice a month, so I can't waste time cleaning my chamber with a cordless drill at the range.
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Yeah, I'd enjoy working on it, probably end up cleaning it for something to do while bored. But, where do you get your ammo from anyway?
 
You can order it via Marstar or scrounge it local if possible. Word from the wise, buy it a crate at a time. I didn't shoot my Mosin much untill this summer and have gone though nearly half a case this month!
 
Yeah I was thinking about checking marstar. I might be able to scrounge it locally, but the nearest gun shop is a bit of a drive, well at least the nearest one that would have European surplus ammo anyway. hmm, maybe I should buy a little type 54 to go with it so I don't end up using a crate of ammo a month.....mmm communist guns.
 
BBq_Woa! said:
totally accurate, never wear down.
youll get one for cheap, clean it up, buy tons of cheap milsurp ammo, clean your bore with boiling water and an oiled patch every time, and it'll last forever.
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I am sure that the answer will be so obvious that I'll feel embarrassed when I read it, but what's the best way to pour the boiling water down the bore. I know that there were special funnels made to clean Lee Enfields, but was wondering what you use on the Mosin.

Regards,

Frank
 
There is some variation in bore diameter among the various models, and some will shoot .308 dia bullets better than .311.I have a Finnish M27 with a Tikka bbl which is extremely accurate with .308 bullets in handloads using Lapua brass.As an aside I visited Finland some yrs ago and toured the Nylands Brigade garrison,incl their museum,with a Finnish Army friend.In addition to a number of MNs on display,they also had a Model 1895 Winchester musket which the Russians had purchased in 7.62 Russian,complete with bayonet.The garrison itself is quite interesting as it was built by the Russians on the eve of WW1,and before the Finns gained their freedom in 1917.Many of the original red brick buildings are still in good repair and were being used.A comment on the old Imperial Russian Army;among the first buildings was the officers mess,complete with grand ballroom and roccoco style space heaters.At the same time the troopies were toughing out the winter in tents!!!
 
Beadwindow said:
I am sure that the answer will be so obvious that I'll feel embarrassed when I read it, but what's the best way to pour the boiling water down the bore. I know that there were special funnels made to clean Lee Enfields, but was wondering what you use on the Mosin.

Regards,

Frank
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You could also use a funnel ;)

Personally I don't bother. I clean very thoroughly with modern solvents (usually outers foaming bore cleaner and Hoppes Elite Gel) and then reclean a few days later. If rust doesn't start a week after that, it won't start at all ;)
 
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