Mossberg 590-A1 Bayonets?
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I don't have it with me right now, but I believe it is an Ontario Knife Company M9:
At least it looks like the same to me
I'll confirm when I get home... Or someone could chime in...
Nice! How is the lug; does it give you a solid mount, comparable with an AR? I've seen pictures of the special 870 bayonet mount designed for the USMC in the 1970s ... it was extremely heavy compared to the Mossberg edition.
manbearpig
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the M7 bayonet is superior in durability to the M9.
the M9 isnt even really a true bayonet at all, but more of a survival knife that they added bayonet functionality to. if you do some research on them the net is rife with stories of servicemen breaking them very easily during simple training drills. whats funny is that despite the fact that the M9 replaced the M7, ive read that in many cases they switched back to older M7s for bayonet training drills because of the high failure rate on the M9s. the M9s have a very poor reputation among all but the mall ninja crowd.
if you insist on the M9 style, then perhaps check out the new Ontario Marine bayonet - OKC3S - its supposedly a more durable, improved M9. might be something worth looking into, but theyre more expensive.
if i wanted to stick anything more resilient than a cabbage, however, i would stick with the M7 - its basically a thick metal spike, and very durable and proven. they can also be had cheap on ebay - especially if you dont care about collectability.
it may not look as cool as an M9, but IMHO function/durability vastly supercede looks - and they have an aesthetic appeal of their own. if someone wanted to give me an M9 for free id take it, but i would not pay a penny more for a Mossberg that came bundled with an M9. id just pick up an inexpensive M7 from ebay.
the M9 isnt even really a true bayonet at all, but more of a survival knife that they added bayonet functionality to. if you do some research on them the net is rife with stories of servicemen breaking them very easily during simple training drills. whats funny is that despite the fact that the M9 replaced the M7, ive read that in many cases they switched back to older M7s for bayonet training drills because of the high failure rate on the M9s. the M9s have a very poor reputation among all but the mall ninja crowd.
if you insist on the M9 style, then perhaps check out the new Ontario Marine bayonet - OKC3S - its supposedly a more durable, improved M9. might be something worth looking into, but theyre more expensive.
if i wanted to stick anything more resilient than a cabbage, however, i would stick with the M7 - its basically a thick metal spike, and very durable and proven. they can also be had cheap on ebay - especially if you dont care about collectability.
it may not look as cool as an M9, but IMHO function/durability vastly supercede looks - and they have an aesthetic appeal of their own. if someone wanted to give me an M9 for free id take it, but i would not pay a penny more for a Mossberg that came bundled with an M9. id just pick up an inexpensive M7 from ebay.
The lug is solid, but it is abit loose when mounted.
It will wobble about and of course there are the durability issues as pointed out.
Thanks for the insight. Indeed the M7 is nice an clean; easier to sheath and unsheath, I'd guess. Cheers!
Unlike the m9 the okc3s the blade is not screw into the tang..it has a complete tang from the tip to the base. Its only a narrow tang tho. not a full one like the m7.
But hey! medideval swords had narrow tangs too!
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mudgunner49
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The M9 is a brick!!! Basically useless as a knife and not really very effective as a bayonet either. In the interest of full disclosure I've never run anyone through with a bayonet but it's on my bucket list - it's pretty far downbut it's there all the same, I have however talked to a number of folks who have used it on what Keith Cunningham refers to as "animated targets" and their opinion when looking side by side has been that the new USMC version is more desireable for the dual role bayo/utility knife functions......
Interesting ... which version would that be?
manbearpig
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mudgunner49
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Improved blade shape and steel, better edge geometry and far better as a field knife than either the M9 or the M7 (which is best of all 3 for pure stabbiness
- the M7 that is...)
manbearpig
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^i know.. i was pointing out to him that ive already stated the model number of the Marine Bayonet (OKC3S).
btw: from a 'survival' or SHTF perspective, i disagree with a dual-purpose bayonet/knife. your knife is one of your most important tools. i would NOT risk breaking your only knife by messing around with using it as a bayonet. get a quality knife, and if you want a bayonet then get a proven, purpose-built bayonet like the M7. for general use/bushcraft any of the bayonets pale in comparison to a good knife, not just from a quality/materials/performance perspective but also due to blade geometry.
that said, id love to see a Busse bayonet
btw: from a 'survival' or SHTF perspective, i disagree with a dual-purpose bayonet/knife. your knife is one of your most important tools. i would NOT risk breaking your only knife by messing around with using it as a bayonet. get a quality knife, and if you want a bayonet then get a proven, purpose-built bayonet like the M7. for general use/bushcraft any of the bayonets pale in comparison to a good knife, not just from a quality/materials/performance perspective but also due to blade geometry.
that said, id love to see a Busse bayonet
