Mossberg ATR Train wreck!

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Was in the local emporium today, and saw something quite unique.

Here's the bolt out of an ATR in 308 that fired less than a box of factory ammo. Took these pictures today.

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The bolt body is not threaded into the bolt head. It is pressed in.

Worse, the bolt body is splined, but the head is smooth! :eek:

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The customer is upset, but the dealer here is really choked, as he has sold a few and now is concerned about his customers having this happen in the field.

Anyone else seen this?

Ted
 
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Remington 700 handles are copper brazed on, plus dowelled and brazed bolt heads. Remington 788s have a simple brazed plug joint; have seen many broken off. Many Winchesters assemble much like that Mossberg's, plus braze. Savages have the two fingers and a screw plug. Any two piece system can fail. As far as that goes, I have seen Mauser one piece bolt bodies with their handles broken right off.
This one failed. Why? A bad fit? Hard uplift?
 
they knurl the bolt and press the handle on....it should take the rotational load but it won't handle the axial load when pulled back....a combination of rotational and axial load and it loosens up.......not surprising...

ahhhh...I'd just press it back on...in the right position..........a little silver solder and it'll be as good as,.........well as good as a Rem 700...:)
 
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When Mossberg was first selling rifles, they were HOWA actions. Howa's aren't exactly known for being crap.

Although to be fair, there was a bolt recall on some Howa actions.

Still, don't think I'll be buying an ATR or 4x4 just yet!!
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When Mossberg was first making rifles, it was the early 20th century. They were crap then too.

As far as Howa goes, there is a difference between making and reselling.
 
buckbrush said:
Mosberg's are cheap crap, always have been, always will be. They are to firearms what Lee is to reloading.
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I would hardly use the word "crap" to describe most of Mossberg's early 22 rimfire lineup. These were accurate, tough, and well made firearms that gave little, if any grief to their owners. [some were a bit ugly :)] The fact that literally millions of these 22's built in the 20's through the 60's are still in regular use testifies to their viability. Some of the later offerings were less desirable, I agree, but to categorically lump them all into the "crap" pile is nonsense. Regards, Eagleye.
 
As well, my 500 has never failed me once, and is currently pushing 3500 rounds of assorted birdshot, buck, and slugs. AND my lee equipment is still going strong after a couple thousand rounds.
 
Eagleye said:
I would hardly use the word "crap" to describe most of Mossberg's early 22 rimfire lineup. These were accurate, tough, and well made firearms that gave little, if any grief to their owners. [some were a bit ugly :)] The fact that literally millions of these 22's built in the 20's through the 60's are still in regular use testifies to their viability. Some of the later offerings were less desirable, I agree, but to categorically lump them all into the "crap" pile is nonsense. Regards, Eagleye.
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All of your statements apply to Cooey's as well, and their crap too!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
buckbrush said:
Mosberg's are cheap crap, always have been, always will be. They are to firearms what Lee is to reloading.
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If they are to firearms what Lee is to reloading, they should be good value. From the pictures, this one obviously is not. They seem to be almost as popular as the Stevens 200.
 
I wonder if this is a QC issue, and the handle is supposed to be splined as well as the body? Would make sense...
 
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