Mossberg Bullpup. Non-restricted?

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Hi everyone, after seeing the Neostead 2000, I became interested in the Mossberg/Maverick 12ga bullpup shotgun that Mossberg produced in the 80s and early 90s. So I posted a WTB in the EE (still there) and another member mentioned that the Mossberg Bullpup stock assembly was prohibited. From what I'd read online, and since the Neostead 2000 is non-restricted, I assumed the Mossberg Bullpup was also non-restricted. And I'm talking about the one Mossberg actually produced and sold in that configuration, not an add-on stock kit. And from what I've read online, it has an 18.5" barrel and is 28.5" long in total. Could anyone enlighten me? Especially someone who owns one. I've included a picture of the Mossberg bullpup and then the Neostead below that I pulled from google. Thanks for the information, everyone.

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The stock is prohibited. The firearm as shown above is prohibited.

The action can be fired without the stock, so it's prohibited.

I've handled the Mossberg bullpup and it's a horrible design.

Remove your EE post (you're asking for a prohibited device, no good can come of it) and move on.
 
Thanks for the reply. I appreciate it. So the Mossberg there is a prohib, but the Neostead is non-restricted? I believe I saw one come up for sale recently that said as much.
 
SuperArms123 said:
Thanks for the reply. I appreciate it. So the Mossberg there is a prohib, but the Neostead is non-restricted? I believe I saw one come up for sale recently that said as much.
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One of the dealers has a Neostead (I don't recall which, but it was around $2400).

The SKS, Mini-14 and Ruger 10/22 all have bullpup kits (in the states) but as the action is able to fire without the stock they are all prohibited. That's why they is so much excitement over the Kel-Tec shotgun.
 
I don't wish to sound ignorant but I don't get this "if the action can fire without the stock it's prohibited" What exactly does this mean? I just took a 10/22 action minus stock outside and it fired fine, I just had to put some tape over the retaining pins so they wouldn't fall out. You can fire a bolt gun without a stock also, we did it with a .223 Savage the other day. I just don't understand the relevance of something firing without a stock making the stock design prohibited but not the action?
Kim
 
Deselins in Vernon carries Neosteads. I was playing with one this fall. It's pretty cool, but I guarantee this Kel-tec will be cheaper and more versatile.
Might have to wait a year or two though.

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One of the dealers has a Neostead (I don't recall which, but it was around $2400).

The SKS, Mini-14 and Ruger 10/22 all have bullpup kits (in the states) but as the action is able to fire without the stock they are all prohibited. That's why they is so much excitement over the Kel-Tec shotgun.
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Basically, if the bullpup stock is an intrinsic part of the design, you are good to go. Any firearm that you retrofit with a bullpup or is subsequently altered to have a bullpup (even if by the factory, but using the original receiver) then it is prohib. Stupid, yes.
 
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