Mossberg MVP LC, Howa ACP, or Ruger Precision

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Hey everyone, I'm hoping to get to the range more and work on precision target shooting. I'm in need of some suggestive help. As a straight out of the box set up with optics and bipod for under $3000, of the Mossberg MVP LC, Howa ACP, and Ruger Precision, what would you choose? Caliber could be 223, 308, or 6.5 that they all come in as I haven't decided that yet.

Perhaps some of you have a suggestion of something else available on the market I should seriously consider, but these three are the ones I'm having a hard time deciding between right now.

Thank you all, and I look forward to hearing from all your experienced advice.
 
I would bypass the Mossberg, add the Savage 10 series in the factory chassis or a cadex chassis, and then look over that rifle as well as the Howa, and RPR, maybe add the new Remington. All are nice entry level options into the long range precision rifle game. I have 2 SavageCadex rugs, an RPR and a Remington 700 AAC SD that I am going to restock and bed over the winter. All are great shooting rifles. I am, not a Mossberg fan as you can probably tell.
 
Stay clear of the mossberg in my experience. If your lucky you'll get one that shoots okay at best. I would look into the savage 10's or even a model 700 barreled action in 308 or 6.5CM and throw it into the stock or chassis of your choice. Just seen the other say as well, Remingtons new 700 PCR. Factory rifle in a chassis, looks like a RPR almost. Or if you wanna spend a little more the Tikka TAC A1 would be another great choice!
 
Cookiez009

I'll be different than the other guys, Mossberg MVP L/C shoots very well, I've had the opportunity to shoot it and no issues what so ever in 5.56mm .223.

You also have the New MVP Precision available in 6.5 Creedmor, 7.62and now .224Valkirie (this rifle is more expensive in line with the Ruger or Rem)
 
If all it’s going to be is a Target Rig, .223 will let you shoot a lot more just because of ammo price. .223 also has a lot less recoil if you’re just starting out.

Although it wouldn’t be my first choice, both the Mossberg MVP Varmints that I’ve shot have both been accurate (1 MOA). I don’t personally like Mossberg bolt guns, like the guys above. I remember the Nightmare, ot Trainwreck, or whatever it was called. And the 4X4.

I like Savage, but have heard nothing but good things about thee Ruger RPR. Any Savage that I’ve ever shot, other than the pencil barreled sporters, has been MOA, and even those were awfully close with good ammo.
 
I have no experience with the Mossberg but have universally heard bad things about them. The only RPR I handled felt terrible. I got to put a few rounds through a Howa 1500 in 6.5 Creed (suppressed no less) in an MDT ACC chassis this weekend (was squadded with Matt from Howa) at the end of the Blue Ridge PRS match and I have to say that the Howa action is quite nice as is the factory trigger. Between your 3 options, that's where I'd spend my money.
 
I have a Mossberg MVP LC in .308 the gun is fully capable of being a great shooter you just have to have time to spend getting it to perform consistently. First thing to do would have the action and recoil lug bedded by a local gun smith or watch some videos and do it your self (I bedded mine my self). I was unsuccessful with any factory ammo I tried with the gun, I got in to hand loading specifically for this gun and with some trial and error found in my case a hot hand load with 168gr Match bullets I was able to consistently shoot 1/8" to 1/4" groups at 100yds.
All in all if you want to really get to know your gun this one is for you.
 
I would avoid the Mosberg MVP... But the RPR in 223 in particular is a standout more so than other calibers.
The AI pattern mag allows you to run longer than SAMMI spec loads and it is throated accordingly.

The RPR is one of the few rifles in 223 that will mag feed 75-80 grain bullets seated to 2.5 inches long for extra case capacity. If you hand load you can take advantage of this.

With my 223 RPR, I get 2800 FPS with Hornady 75 grain ELDs and 8.5 MOA drop at 500 yards with a rifle that shoots reliably under 3/4 MOA at 100 yards
 
I'm with everyone on adding savage to the mix. I've owned 2 different off the shelf rifles and both have been somthing impressive for the money. The HS 338 Lapua was a sweetheart shooter that besides a short barrel shot well uner .5 MOA. My 308 tactical would knock the thumb tacks out at 100 yrds.
 
I speak base on my Mossberg MVP varmint in 223. It shoots 60 gr vmax to 1 MOA consistently, most of the time group is 3/4 moa. Downside is the AR mag does not allow feeding 75-90gr pills from mag. Facotry trigger is passable but not great, and aftermarket trigger option is almost non-exisitent.
 
SAVAGE 10 BA STEALTH over Mosberg for sure.

Howa is quality rifle for the money, but APC chassis is questionable. I would rather buy howa in a junk stock and go to MDT for chassis.
 
I would say that I appreciate my Mossberg MVP Varmint .223/5.56, but the gun snobs are crap-talking them and once you have one, they look at you like you got leprosy or something. "Real friends don't recommend Mossberg rifles to friends" they say. Because of that alone, resale value of the Mossberg bolt rifles is lower. Now THAT is a very valid reason why you may want to pass on a Mossberg rifle. I'm trying to sell mine to finance another firearm project, and I would have to give it away to get rid of it.

So Mossberg has a "stigma" in the gun "snob" community. I start to feel like going to the range is like going to the golf club...a place to display your swag...branded clothing, expensive gear...
It's the same guys that will also laugh when you shoot your 91/30 Mosin....the "garbage rod" or the "how those are neat, but not accurate whatsoever comes out pretty quick. They are somewhat not far from the truth, but it doesnt take into consideration the FUN part. Same to be said of Norinco pistols...
 
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I have the Ruger RPR in 6.5 creed. Does everything very well. Out to 800m is almost boring. I did change the buttstock and put on a Magpul PRS 3.
 
delavan said:
I would say that I appreciate my Mossberg MVP Varmint .223/5.56, but the gun snobs are crap-talking them and once you have one, they look at you like you got leprosy or something. "Real friends don't recommend Mossberg rifles to friends" they say. Because of that alone, resale value of the Mossberg bolt rifles is lower. Now THAT is a very valid reason why you may want to pass on a Mossberg rifle. I'm trying to sell mine to finance another firearm project, and I would have to give it away to get rid of it.

So Mossberg has a "stigma" in the gun "snob" community. I start to feel like going to the range is like going to the golf club...a place to display your swag...branded clothing, expensive gear...
It's the same guys that will also laugh when you shoot your 91/30 Mosin....the "garbage rod" or the "how those are neat, but not accurate whatsoever comes out pretty quick. They are somewhat not far from the truth, but it doesnt take into consideration the FUN part. Same to be said of Norinco pistols...
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I was in a varmint rifle match some years back with about 40 guys. We were paired off in two man teams and shot at a variety of targets between 100 and 400 meters. The snake was considered the toughest.

Both me and my partner were using 223s. I was using a Sako heavy barrel varmint rifle and my partner was using a Mossberg MVP.

I came in first place.
My partner with his MVP came in dead last.

You can call that fun if you want, but dead last for most of us is not fun.

He has since replaced the MVP with an RPR.
 
Maple57 said:
I was in a varmint rifle match some years back with about 40 guys. We were paired off in two man teams and shot at a variety of targets between 100 and 400 meters. The snake was considered the toughest.

Both me and my partner were using 223s. I was using a Sako heavy barrel varmint rifle and my partner was using a Mossberg MVP.

I came in first place.
My partner with his MVP came in dead last.

You can call that fun if you want, but dead last for most of us is not fun.

He has since replaced the MVP with an RPR.
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I'm sure you are right, you get what you pay for. A sako is definitely not in the same league as the cheap Mossy.
 
I have an MVP varmint - it has shot .25 moa.

But if you have the funds there is no reason to cheap out.
 
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