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My "big gun" is as mainstream as it gets. 308 win. What isn't mainstream is its loaded with 110gr TTSX. Guess if I had to shoot something really big, could load a 130 or a 150.
Besides that its 223 rem, 300 blk and 7.62x39. Having fun making 7.62x39 small rifle primer brass with 6.5 Grendel.
Lots of great cartridges out there, most just don't interest me. A rifle like a Win 70 Classic/Ruger 77 Hawkeye in 6.5x54 MS would be neat.
Besides that its 223 rem, 300 blk and 7.62x39. Having fun making 7.62x39 small rifle primer brass with 6.5 Grendel.
Lots of great cartridges out there, most just don't interest me. A rifle like a Win 70 Classic/Ruger 77 Hawkeye in 6.5x54 MS would be neat.
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Found a MS 6.5mm on a used gun rack once. Had a bolt like a butter knife handle. Wish I'd have bought that, it was decent condition.
They are fantastic little carbines, for sure! I love mine.....
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I still have mine. Great little hunting rifles. - dan
If you punch a nail hole or a pipe hole through an animals heart, its minutes are numbered. To me it comes down to accessibility within the users ability to handle it, and their budget. So if a guy has a shoulder injury, use the little gun. If he’s used to hunting brown bear and doesn’t have time to purchase and sight in a deer rifle, use his 338. If grandpa handed down an obsolete chambered rifle and he has ammo but no money, use it. If he’s likes to handload niche cartridges for nostalgia, enjoy. The end result is the same in terms of enjoying the wilderness in fair chase and possibly returning with venison. I’m happy there is choice, though I use the most mundane run of the mill cartridges of all. And for the record, I think my 30-06 is way overpowered for deer and doesn’t do anything more to deer than the fantasy 260 Remington I can’t find or afford right now. Everyone enjoy the good times out there.
Really does boil down to the Tip of all things.
I find these convos interesting because here in Aus we have Minimum calbres for deers... Smaller species 243 w 80gr.. an the larger species like red sambar rusa are 270 w 130 gr ....
It's a silly line in the sand- but we often over gun ourselves....
An often use the wrong tip...
I find these convos interesting because here in Aus we have Minimum calbres for deers... Smaller species 243 w 80gr.. an the larger species like red sambar rusa are 270 w 130 gr ....
It's a silly line in the sand- but we often over gun ourselves....
An often use the wrong tip...
We have that in AB as well, though some changes were recently made. Deer, well just about anything can work. Where I elk hunt is also grizzly territory, so I prefer a larger cartridge, for that reason. Moose are just big deer really. - dan
Every once in a while you get one that surprises you though. My brother shot one with his 270 when we were hunting in northern mb some time back, damn thing ran about 5 miles up a creek and expired on the side of a Beaver damn. Most just lay down and bleed out in my experience. - dan
Shot wasn't bad, but it took the moose a fair while to bleed out. Kind of firmed up my opinion on the 270 Win, but to be fair, it has worked cou less other times. I bought my brother a bigger gun. I still have that 270 though. I was going to rebarrel it, but it is too accurate to tamper with. I've used it on various deer a few times. Had to change the stock though, that Win monte carlo does not agree with my cheekbones. - dan
The older folks in my family always said the same thing about the 270 when I was growing up. Wasn't sure if it was a bullet availability/selection issue or if there was more to it than that? Do you know what the load was at the time?
Used it to euthanize one moose so far but because it was in a bad way to begin with, cant really tell much from an already poor single data point! Wounding on that one and deer doesn't seem to be what one would expect from a 130gr soft point moving that fast, but who knows.
Not a fan of the monte carlo either. Straight comb for me as well, or with a Win 70 style cheekpiece if any.
150 gr CIL ammunition (this was the early 70s, not much handloading going on at my house at the time). I have since used bullets from 110 to 170 gr, with various construction. Fastest kill I ever saw on a big WT doe was with 140 gr Nosler BT's. Likes 150 gr Accubonds too. Speed helps. I use a 270 Wby sometimes and with similar bullets it kills better. All personal anecdotes though. - dan
Those all sound good. If someone uses lead hard not to say BT/Accubond/Partition for just about anything.
One of the guys I learned a lot about hunting from uses a 300 WBY and 270 WBY for just about everything...yeah, I see the difference you mention.
Only guy I know who has pulled a legit 400 meter shot in this area as well, although I am sure there are others. Moose was already wounded (by someone else) so why not try. Considering it was spontaneous like that, the flat trajectory sure helped. Pretty much aimed at the hump from a 200 yard zero.
