Moving deer: peep or blade sight?

ninepointer

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I'm new to peep sights, but I'm getting used to them at the range. I'm not ready to remove my sight insert to try the "ghost ring" method. I keep hearing that peep sights are more effective on moving deer (target acquisition) than a typical blade type iron sight. What's better; peep or blade?

Ninepointer
 
Peep rear for sure. But DO remove the insert. The larger hole will spped up aquisition X10, and you will be just as accurate. Trust me on this: The larger "ghost ring" rear is lightning fast, and perfectly fine accuarcy wise. Your eye will subconciously center the blade in the ring, and this is what you want. Moving deer: Ghost ring is the way to go.
 
I've never hunted (yet) but from my range experience, I learned on a blade sight, all my rifles have blade sights, the one advantage to them is that you always get the windage right with those, although elevation can be tricky (vertical strings are common on paper for me but always in a straight-ish line). Peep sights, sure I can shoot good "groups" with them (when I borrow somebody else's rifle which just happens to have peep sights), but they're all over the place rather than in a neat vertical line, so if I <had> to hunt with irons, I'd go with blade sight all the way.
 
I find the Ross 1910 rear sight to be the best combination - its a buckhorn site located as a peep (at the rear of the receiver bridge) The buckhorn offers a better, more open, field of view, yet retains the focus advantages of a peep for my 51 year old eyes.
 
I've never hunted (yet) but from my range experience,

Well my range experience tells me a 6-24x set on 24 with bags works very well!
BUT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH HUNTING!!

Most battle sights are peeps, a Large number of old hunting guns were peep sighted...why...because their proven to work!

Ninepointer: listen to advice given, a peep with the insert in forces you to mentally use the rear as an alignment tool, that's OK for target shooting. With-out the insert, you will notice the apature is blurry, that's what is supposed to happen because your not supposed to take time to centre it, believe us it will happen naturally. That's the whole key to peeps you only have two site plains to concentrate on, game & front sight, as opposed to three plains with open sights, game, front sight & rear sight!
 
Thanks for the advice guys:). I have a .308 and a .22 equipped with peeps. My next visit to the range will be for the purpose of "ghost ring" practice.

Cheers :cheers:

Ninepointer
 
Low power scope has always worked just fine for me. I have killed many deer/fox/jacks running with a low powered scope.


I have also killed running jack rabbits with a peep rear and a hooded front post equiped .22mag and I imagine it would work just as well on deer.
 
Wrong Way and Senior said it well.

In hunting there are extra issues at play. Speed being one. An open sight (the steel blade with a notch in it) covers the bottom half of the target.

In my hunting expereince,a deer and a moose does not always present a nice profile like a picture on a calendar. When half of what you can see is covered by the rear sight is is much more difficult to take a good shot.

In a quick shot there is a tendancy to see moreof the target, which measn the rifle is aimed high and a bad shot or miss is the result.

A peep (ghost ring) allows the rifle to be well zeroed with a small peep and hunted with a rear sight that covers nothing.

The best deer and moose sights in the bush are ghost rings with good front sights or low power scopes.

My 338 Mag has both. If I take the scope off I can slip on the bridge to a Williams Foolproof. If the scope was damaged I could do that and still be effective.

The Williams sight has a little set screw you can turn and set so that the sight will go and off to the exact same position. A nice feature.
 
next to a scope, i've always said the peep sight is the best hunting sight there is. it lines up much quicker especially on a running deer. there's no lining up front to rear "vee" sight and the sight picture is much clearer on a peep sight. while you might lose some accuracy, removing the aperture will increase your sight a lot.
 
I say use whatever you can to hit the target with reliability, and if you suck with both PRACTICE and try both until you find your preference. Am I the only one that shoots with one eye closed with peeps? It sounds like everyone else uses both eyes open. And I like both types of sites too, just got to know how to use them.
 
A rifle that fits... That way you can mount, acquire the target and fire a round quickly. The type of sights are secondary to that AND practice!!!

Cheers
Jay
 
Peep on the rear, post on the front. Take the insert out of the rear peep.
That may not work well on a target 22, as the hole left when you take the insert out of a proper target sight will be huge.
The peeps used by hunters like the Williams FP for example leave a hole about an eighth of an inch when the insert is removed. (No I didn't measure it)
You can hunt with that insert in place, but sooner or later, you will get yourself in a spot where the light is right, and you can't see a damned thing through the tiny hole. When that happens, the peep insert will be confined to the range.
 
I was shooting my Ruger 10/22 (equipped with Williams receiver sight) this past weekend and I tried the ghost ring method. It worked fine in the daylight but when I got into shady woods I really had trouble seeing the ghost ring. The ghost became invisible.

One thing I noticed was that if I moved my head back a bit from my natural postion, the ghost ring re-appeared. I'm a tall guy and the 10/22 carbine has a fairly short stock, so this got me wondering; could it be that my eye is too close to the receiver sight? I'm thinking of buying a pad to extend the stock, but first I'd like to hear if anyone else has encountered this problem?
 
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