MR1 or XCR or Tavor or Swiss Arms?

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I've been thinking about buying a new rifle. I know I want it to be able to take pistol mags (LAR-15) to get around the 5 round limit. My budjet is around 2500$, preferebly less. I've narrowed it down to the MR1, or XCR, but after doing some reading I'm not sure I want to buy a $2500 rifle that has issues. I like the looks of the XCR, but if I'm going to spend that kind of money I expect it to function flawlessly. I also hear the MR1 can be quirky with the LAR-mags, and its definetly the ugly one of the two.
What would you prefer? And is there anythanother rifle I shoud be considering, excluding Kel-Tec?
 
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Owning both, either of them will be well worthed, the MR-1 is the sleeper of the rifles world, accurate, extra reliable and one K less then the XCR, now the XCR-M is my biggest surprise for the last year, extra reliable, very accurate, great ergonomy, either way you get out on top... JP.
 
Madmardigan said:
I've thought about that one too, but haven't been able to find one new. There's a few on the EE, but their done up a bit and out of my price range.
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I don't think you've been looking hard 'nough! Took 10 seconds to find 3 from two site sponsors. I'm sure others have some as well. Happy buying!

As for the ones that have been modified a bit, I'm 90% sure you'll end up doing those mods as well in the near future, better let someone else pay full retail and the gunsmithin' costs ;)

Wolverines:
SL-4 - http://www.wolverinesupplies.com/details/7127/Heckler-and-Koch-SL8-4-233-Rifle-Black.aspx

SL-5 - http://www.wolverinesupplies.com/details/7091/Heckler-and-Koch-SL8-5-223-Rifle-Long-Rail.aspx

Wanstalls:
http://www.wanstallsonline.com/h-k-sl8-.223.html
 
I wouldn't recommend the sl8, HK didn't make a lot of them and they are currently discontinued, so getting parts for them is harder than ever.
 
Thanks for the replies. I dont think I'll get a SL8, one of the things I want is the ability to take 10 round mags without having to mod the rifle. And its on the high end of my budget, same with the Tavor. And I'm off the idea of getting a XCR, there seems to be a lot of people having issues.
Caliber isnt really too important. I just want a fun non-restricted semi auto, that has the ability to take 10 shot mags. Pistol caliber carbins would be ok too, but I dont like the look of the JR or the Theron Defence. I've talked to a guy at one of my local gun shops about buying a Cx4 and having them convert it to non-restricted. He said having it re-barreled is around $600, that puts me around the same as a MR1.
I'll be heading out today to do some gun shopping, if I find a MR1 I'll probably end up getting that. Unless you guys have any other suggestions?
 
Go for the MR-1 you will be very happy with it, i have only go thing to say about them and i will give you a recipe to shot MOA with it... JP.
 
For me, that the Tavor is the only one that doesn't have some quirk or concern.

  • The SL8 is too heavy for a service rifle and not accurate enough for a precision rifle
  • The XCRs are mostly ok but you still see posts about poor QC. Front heavy; why RA didn't go with a lighter profile barrel is a puzzle to me
  • MR-1 has a shotgun-style stock that makes a proper cheek weld tough. A better stock would have made this one a much better choice...too bad Benelii dropped the ball.
  • Swiss are expensive, heavy and not optic friendly. The uncertainty about their classification makes them a bad choice right now.
  • The AR-180B at least has traditional rifle ergonomics, but it's been discontinued for years. I know a shooter who cracked the lower receiver as well.
The biggest beef with Tavor is trigger pull. If you're used to a factory AR pull, the Tavor is not that different. A little pricey, but a few hundred less now than a few months ago. I don't think I've ever seen a post from someone that's had an issue with one, either.
 
BenL said:
Be SURE to have seen and shouldered the MR1 before you buy it.

The ergonomics are...well...not for everyone.
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Right, but there are three different configurations. I love the Comfortech but am happy shooting with irons. The stock has three different cheek weld options or simply buy a cheap strap on. The quality is excellent and the gun shoots reliably and accurately every time. I've run different mags through and no problems (although I've not run an LAR). It's possible some of the mag complaints are that an AR is superior so those used to that platform are not as impressed. And we all know that nothing else compares to an AR. Well, at least IMHO anyways. But I'm sick of the restricted BS so I'm very happy with the MR1. The only real drawback IMO is getting a scope to work well. It's a bit complicated. The XCR is way easier to scope so if that is important to you then you might have to lean that way. OP, please let us know what you do :cool:
 
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Right, but there are three different configurations. I love the Comfortech but am happy shooting with irons. The stock has three different cheek weld options or simply buy a cheap strap on. The quality is excellent and the gun shoots reliably and accurately every time. I've run different mags through and no problems (although I've not run an LAR). It's possible some of the mag complaints are that an AR is superior so those used to that platform are not as impressed. And we all know that nothing else compares to an AR. Well, at least IMHO anyways. But I'm sick of the restricted BS so I'm very happy with the MR1. The only real drawback IMO is getting a scope to work well. It's a bit complicated. The XCR is way easier to scope so if that is important to you then you might have to lean that way. OP, please let us know what you do :cool:
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Rest assured that after shouldering the MR1 a couple of years ago that it was a certainty that I would never purchase one :) The ergos just aren't good enough. Mounting optics is a PITA. It is a mechanically a quality piece, there are no doubts there. How do you like taking it apart ;)
 
BenL said:
It is a mechanically a quality piece, there are no doubts there. How do you like taking it apart ;)
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HaHa, not much at first! But once you get the hang of it it's easy. I think for those of us who have had AR's, it can be difficult to accept "lesser" firearms. The AR is incredible IMO. So anything like a comfortech MR1 is positively pedestrian in comparison. But, we live in Canada and that makes some of us more accepting of some limitations. If none of us had ever handled an AR (or SAN etc.), then the MR1 would seem incredible too. The scope issue is fixable. ATRS carries a rail that works. A little work is required on the stock to get the right weld and eye relief too but it is doable. And, it takes Pmags ;) But again, scoping an XCR is much easier.

One other point which I hesitate to bring up...but when the "list" came out in the US in the last gun control debate, the Comfortech was not on it (I'm not sure about the other two versions and then XCR may not have been on it either). It lacks an adjustable stock and does not have a pistol grip and we already have a mag size limit. So to restrict it would require a lot of hunting rifles being re-classified as restricted too. That is a much bigger step for any gov't. Defeatist talk? Yeah :redface:
 
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