MRAD or MOA

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Hey Guys.

Quick question. If you had the choice between the same scope in MOA or MRAD, what would you choose? I am not swayed by either, as I know both, but still torn. Both scopes are hash mark reticles versus mildots, which is my preference. I am not stating manufacturer, as I know what I want, just torn between reticle and dials.

Main use is paper, and I want to extend further, plus hunt in the near future. Oh ya, I have decided on SFP versus FFP. O figure I am competent enough to do the math at the lower magnifications,if required.
 
MOA usually has finer adjustments.

Any compensation done with a Mildot reticle can be directly and easily dialed in with a MRAD scope.

For paper punching at known distances, I would get the MOA for the finer adjustments. 1/4 MOA @ 100 yards is .262 or 6.65mm. 10mm (1/10th MRAD) @ 100m is .393"
 
Known distance shooting the moa would be nice for the finer graduations.
I personally like mils. As they make more sense to me. I am comfortable using both however.
Do you use a spotting scope with a reticle in it? Do you plan on getting one? Do you shoot with friends or have friends spot for you? Do they understand both, or know how to give corrections with both?
Just a couple questions that I was thinking about recently, as I think the scope I'll put on an M14 build I'm planning will be in MOA, although my spotter has a mil dot reticle in it, and my friends I shoot with use mil scopes. If they give me corrections in mils I will have to convert to MOA.
 
I prefer MOA but only because I've been using it longer. I just bought a scope with MIL turrets and it's taking a little getting used to.
Go with either and you'll be fine once you get used to it but if you already have other scopes with one or the other then try to keep them the same to help keep it simple.
 
Thanks Guys.

I am shooting on my own. No spotters etc. To be honest, the MRAD optic is appealing to me, even though my minimal experience is MOA. My Bushnell 10x option my M14 is mildot but MOA turrets. I love the fixed scope,but the Bushnell mildot reticle is thick. If I am honest, I like the idea of mrad....bit still open to experienced owners.
 
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I'm going to throw this out there and I know many will disagree, the difference in the adjustments between a 1/10 mil scope and a 1/4 MOA scope isn't big enough to matter to the majority of shooters. At 100 yards the difference between true 1/4 MOA and 1/10 mil is 0.09825". There are few rifles and even fewer shooters that are capable of shooting within that tiny window, therefore you likely wouldn't be able to notice a difference. Further out, at 500 yards for example that difference is 5 times the 100 yard value, which is just under a half inch at 0.49125". Again, such a small difference that I'm pretty confident would exceed the accuracy capability of most, as this level of accuracy is better than 0.1 MOA.

I guess it could be argued that the difference between a 1/10 mil scope and a 1/8 MOA scope would be enough to make a significant difference. This would provide you an advantage of 0.1965" per click at 100 yards and 0.9825" per click at 500 yards. You and your rifle system would need to be able to shoot better than 0.2 MOA to take advantage of this difference.

Those are the numbers for those who enjoy them. The difference between the two are so insignificant that, in my opinion, will not matter unless you are going after world records. I would chose the system which you are more familiar or more comfortable with. Your ability to understand and use either system will be far more important than the accuracy difference between them.
 
For me the math is easier with a millradian scope than an MOA scope. The mil ranging formula is the same regardless if you are using metric or imperial. That may be important to you if you intend to use the reticle for ranging distance.
 
Thanks guys. I failed to mention....that the MOA is sold out where I was looking, which is a major factor in my decision. The MRAD is my choice.

Thanks Guys.


...and I was looking at the Viper PST 6-24x50 EBR-1
 
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Well, I picked up the scope today. I was going to buy from a vendor, but I found out a local shop in Ottawa had them in. Happy to save the shipping!
 
I am solidly in the MOA camp.

I grew up learning metric in school, but as soon as I entered the trades, imperial measurement has become second nature to me for many things.

Add to whatever you personal taste is the fact that MOA is more precise, and you have your answer.
 
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I am solidly in the MOA camp.

I grew up learning metric in school, but as soon as I entered the trades, imperial measurement has become second nature to me for many things.

Add to whatever you personal taste is the fact that MOA is more precise, and you have your answer.
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Yep I agree. Same goes here. Even from leaving the army and MRAD I am slowly getting used to MOA.
 
Kevin M. said:
I am solidly in the MOA camp.

I grew up learning metric in school, but as soon as I entered the trades, imperial measurement has become second nature to me for many things.

Add to whatever you personal taste is the fact that MOA is more precise, and you have your answer.
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Yes, but milliradians are not metric. Whatever you put into them is what you get out. Yards, meters, fathoms etc.

Going to hit the range really quick today....too freakin cold for a longer stay....to try it out and test some new COAL in my loads.
 
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