MSR vs SLR?

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I know this has probably been discussed lots but I've been searching and searching and cant find any threads on it. I'm planning on doing my first NR build and cant decide between the SLR or the MSR recievers. Help?

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MSR all the way, simply because I know ATRS and if it’s not perfect it doesn’t go out the door and if somehow a mistake was made they will fix it!

SLR should get slaughtered if they don’t make a pricing change.... see BCL102 Vs stag10
 
No experience with the MS but I'm sure it will be excellent. the 2 SLR's I built work great. I think the deciding factor might be how soon you want it, as SLR's seem to be more available.
 
No problems with my SLR. ATRS makes awesome stuff though. I’d have an ATRS set if it wasn’t for the wait. Already waited months for the SLR. When they become more available I’ll be happy to compare both.
 
Having seen the disagree that was the SLR, it's an obvious choice for me. The newest SLR are better, but still suffering from screws that loosen on some sets.
Having been lucky enough to do some beta testing, I can happily say that the Sporter I've assembled has fired in excess of 2000rds of 223 without a failure. And all mags I could find to test fit and dropped free.
 
While I have my qualms about the MS, and how they don’t accept any handguards with anti rotation tabs (see practically every popular quality manufacturer) the SLR’s design is about as jacked up as it gets for me. We haven’t used removable screws in modern firearms in ages for a reason, and for that reason alone I refuse to buy into a modern rifle that requires me to undo screws to take it down. Not to mention if it happens to rattle loose under recoil and I forget to check before going on a walk about.

And please, don’t tell me to just use locktite.
 
If I was going into battle, I think I would prefer a rifle that uses pins for faster field stripping. It's unlikely I will be taking any rifle into battle though, so screws are not a big deal to me. It takes about 30 seconds to loosen the screw.

All my bolt action rifles use screws. They have been used in some pretty harsh conditions and seem to work just fine. :)
 
purplezuk said:
Having seen the disagree that was the SLR, it's an obvious choice for me. The newest SLR are better, but still suffering from screws that loosen on some sets.
Having been lucky enough to do some beta testing, I can happily say that the Sporter I've assembled has fired in excess of 2000rds of 223 without a failure. And all mags I could find to test fit and dropped free.
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Just use locktite.


Lol joke aside, just put some cutex on the screw and it shouldn't loose anymore
 
Gatehouse said:
If I was going into battle, I think I would prefer a rifle that uses pins for faster field stripping. It's unlikely I will be taking any rifle into battle though, so screws are not a big deal to me. It takes about 30 seconds to loosen the screw.

All my bolt action rifles use screws. They have been used in some pretty harsh conditions and seem to work just fine. :)
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Agreed. Damn If you and I would be going to war we’ed be using a real military rifle like an AR or M4 so why are we confusing “non AR” rifles like the SLR and MS?
 
The SLR is less of an AR-15 than the ATRS, both in function and looks. That and their great reputation. I don't think it matters too much in the end of the person is happy though.
 
Gatehouse said:
If I was going into battle, I think I would prefer a rifle that uses pins for faster field stripping. It's unlikely I will be taking any rifle into battle though, so screws are not a big deal to me. It takes about 30 seconds to loosen the screw.

All my bolt action rifles use screws. They have been used in some pretty harsh conditions and seem to work just fine. :)
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You’re missing the key difference though. A bolt action uses screws that are torqued or set in place, and maybe require removal during extended maintenance once a year if that?

The SLR requires regular cleaning and maintenance which requires removal of the screw. Got a problem with your SLR in the field? Don’t loose that screw.
We won’t even get into the numerous cases of screws just falling out under recoil.
 
FoxAlpha said:
While I have my qualms about the MS, and how they don’t accept any handguards with anti rotation tabs (see practically every popular quality manufacturer) the SLR’s design is about as jacked up as it gets for me. We haven’t used removable screws in modern firearms in ages for a reason, and for that reason alone I refuse to buy into a modern rifle that requires me to undo screws to take it down. Not to mention if it happens to rattle loose under recoil and I forget to check before going on a walk about.

And please, don’t tell me to just use locktite.
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Virtually ALL billet uppers will require having the anti rotation tabs fitted to the upper. Even on milspec forgings the only way the tabs are really effective is to fit them to the upper as even on the milspec forgings there are variations in dimensions from brand to brand. So essentially your argument for the fitment of the tabs is a non starter.
 
FoxAlpha said:
You’re missing the key difference though. A bolt action uses screws that are torqued or set in place, and maybe require removal during extended maintenance once a year if that?

The SLR requires regular cleaning and maintenance which requires removal of the screw. Got a problem with your SLR in the field? Don’t loose that screw.
We won’t even get into the numerous cases of screws just falling out under recoil.
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You can’t lose the screw as there is a smaller screw thst won’t allow it. No doubt pins are more convenient for cleaning but honestly, loosening a screw takes a few seconds. Given the choice I would take pins like on an AR15 , but the screw does work. It’s truly only a big deal if someone wants to make it a big deal.

I only have 200 rounds through mine but the screw is not moving, which seems typical for most users. I did read one or two accounts of loosening screws but they don’t seem to be the norm.
 
Gatehouse said:
You can’t lose the screw as there is a smaller screw thst won’t allow it.
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I have an early serial numbered SLR and the takedown bolt's retaining screw does NOT retain the takedown bolt. It slides past and falls right out.

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I don't care what anyone says, they should have had one takedown pin cross ways through the receiver. There's enough material there that it could have been done.

And by eliminating the takedown bolt they could have made the front of the magwell lower so there was a decent looking magwell profile. So much fail just because of using a stupid bolt.

Bolts and helicoils are for amateurs.

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jiffx2781 said:
I have an early serial numbered SLR and the takedown bolt's retaining screw does NOT retain the takedown bolt. It slides past and falls right out.

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I don't care what anyone says, they should have had one takedown pin cross ways through the receiver. There's enough material there that it could have been done.

And by eliminating the takedown bolt they could have made the front of the magwell lower so there was a decent looking magwell profile. So much fail just because of using a stupid bolt.

Bolts and helicoils are for amateurs.

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There are reasons for the bolt vs push pin.
 
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