Murray's spring loaded sks firing oins

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Just wanted to put a plug in for Murray's gun smithing down in Texas. I ordered 2 firing pins from them for my Chinese made sks last Monday. After 3 days I had not heard anything from them, so I became a little concerned. I sent them an email in regards to the order (which had already been paid for).

Wouldn't you know it, but 30 minutes later I received a phone call from Murray himself, letting me know that the firing pins had indeed been shipped the same day. Emails had been sent confirming this with a tracking number, but unfortunatley they had been going to my spam box (woops). When I checked the tracking number it showed that they were already in CANADA.

So long story short, I am extremely impressed by their customer service. Very nice people (I actually received another phone call later that day from another woman just to confirm that I had received the emails.



So here I sit waiting to see if their product meets the standards that they claim. Does anyone else in CGN have any experience with these firing pins?
 
No haven't used one.
My first SKS was a 1950, because I thought I needed the spring. Then I realized I didn't need it.
Since then I've bought a 54 and a Chinese.
There seems to be a bit of fear mongering when it comes to the need of the spring. Murray's, which I'm sure is great, is there to facilitate that concern.
 
Murray's service is excellent. I had a firing pin from the bad batch and I live in Canada. My firing pin was not broken but just to be on the safe side I emailed Murray and asked for a replacement, just in case. I was told to send the old one back and shortly after I did received the new one, for free! I haven't yet been able to find anyone who matches Murray's awesome service.

I fire milsurp ammo and have gone through roughly ~1000 rounds without any hassle. The pin seems to be holding up just fine. Though I have read somewhere that you shouldn't use Murray's FP and milsurp ammo due to the nature of the milsurp's hard primers. Can anyone confirm this?

-Strelok
 
StrelokRussia said:
Murray's service is excellent. I had a firing pin from the bad batch and I live in Canada. My firing pin was not broken but just to be on the safe side I emailed Murray and asked for a replacement, just in case. I was told to send the old one back and shortly after I did received the new one, for free! I haven't yet been able to find anyone who matches Murray's awesome service.

I fire milsurp ammo and have gone through roughly ~1000 rounds without any hassle. The pin seems to be holding up just fine. Though I have read somewhere that you shouldn't use Murray's FP and milsurp ammo due to the nature of the milsurp's hard primers. Can anyone confirm this?

-Strelok
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This notion came about because of the bad batch of pins that had hardening issues. That has been sorted out so shouldn't be an issue. Remember the early year SKSs had a spring firing pin as well with no problems so it shouldn't be a problem with the Murray.
 
Murrays customer service is excellent. I ordered a spring loaded fireing pin and cleaned the bolt and installed it . After slightly less that 100 rounds the carbine malfunctioned, it would not fire . I took it apart and found the spring totally smashed into hundreds of fragments. I had an awful time getting them all out . I made a tool with a tiny hook on the end and snagged the major pieces. Medical Q tips allowed me to remove all the schrapnel after many tries. Murrays sent me two new springs. and it did the same thing!!! I am now using the Murray pin with no spring, as I had some sticking problems with the factory one. I have spoken to two other SKS owners, who have experenced the same problems. The Murray pin fits slightly looser that the Norinco one and functions perfectly, with out the spring.. If anyone can shed any light on this , please speak up!
 
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ljones said:
This notion came about because of the bad batch of pins that had hardening issues. That has been sorted out so shouldn't be an issue. Remember the early year SKSs had a spring firing pin as well with no problems so it shouldn't be a problem with the Murray.
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+1 Thanks
 
Pins arrived first thing yesterday morning. 1 week to my door from day of purchase. Each came in its own Baggie with a spare spring. Both dropped right in with no issues. I will take them out to the range and put them through their paces and let you so know how they hold up to 300+ surplus rounds. Sounds like in the past there were some issues when striking the harder surplus primers, but seeing as how that's all I shoot they better work!

So far I am impressed. That kind of service from a US company is new to me, so hopefully their product performs as well!
 
I have broke 2 with surplus. I was told that the hard primers where causing the failures my murray, who did replace them both, i ended up putting my factory pin back in.... no issues, treat it mean but always keep it clean!
 
This is my experience and my ultimate opinion.
I have had some lengthy online chats with Ben about his pins. I dont know about his new product but this is what I encountered with his previous pin.
With the original pin I have 0 problems and I only shoot surplus ammo. I tried his pin and had popped primers, this is what fries the spring as mentioned by one member. I used the Murray web site and corrected the popped primer issue by cleaning up the FP hole which had some "volcano" type burring which creates a cookie cutter effect. After that no popped primer but I had numerous FTF's. The primer was struck and when rechambered fired but it is inconvienient. For what ever reason, the (older) Murray spring pin doesnt have the same impact on the surplus primers for consistant ignition.

Now the fellows in the states dont get the surplus ammo (hard primer) like we do so they depend more on commercial (soft primer) ammo. The commercial ammo appears to be more sensitive to the free floating FP in the SKS so they get slam fires. So IF you are planning on using commercial ammo for target practice or hunting, get the spring loaded pin. IF you are using surplus ammo, the choice is yours but you may experience FTF's and popped primers.
 
I have a Murray's pin in my Chicom SKS. The first one I had broke (aforementioned hardening issue I think). I called the company, and Ben took the time to have a conversation with me about it, and promptly sent out a new pin. I corrected the "cookie cutter" problem with my bolt simply by finger spinning a countersink bit in the striker hole to bevel it a little. No issues whatsoever since then. And I have fired nothing but surplus ammo (mostly some real dirty Bulgarian stuff) through mine, and have never once had an FTF.
 
The new pins have been improved, none of the earlier issues anymore. We stock them, in Canada, as well as the Murray sear & spring kit for a nice trigger job for your SKS, HERE.
 
The only thing the SKS needs are a set of the Wolff trigger and sear springs. Gun feels like it was brand new.
 
The Soviets used a spring loaded firing pin for early production (I've heard both 2 and 5 years) There must have been a reason they discontinued using the spring!
 
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