Muzzle break?

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Looking at possibly mounting a muzzle break on my Rem 788.

Going to be replacing the barrel since it looks to be damaged by the previous owner.

Looking at 18" barrel to keep it NR.

From what I've read, a break helps with reducing recoil and pobbibly muzzle rise.
Right now on my rifle with the barrel it has on, their is a bit of muzzle rise.

Any ideas on what a good one is? Looking to spend around $100-200 I'm thinking.
 
What caliber of rifle do you want to put a brake on?
You can use a shorter replacement barrel as long as you maintain a 26" oal.
A brake will also significantly increase the noise produced, something to consider if you will not be using hearing protection.
 
AB.boy said:
What caliber of rifle do you want to put a brake on?
You can use a shorter replacement barrel as long as you maintain a 26" oal.
A brake will also significantly increase the noise produced, something to consider if you will not be using hearing protection.
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It's going to be a 308.
Yes, I'm safe with the 18" barrel.
No worries with noise since I wear ear plugs when shooting.
 
rommelrommel said:
You don’t need to keep the barrel to 18 to remain NR.
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You might be correct - but go here: https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/acts/C-46/section-84.html

Read part (b) under definition of "prohibited firearm" - I think that comes down on you, if you saw off, cut or alter a barrel. I have a Ruger 77 Compact rifle here with a 16.5" barrel - perfectly "non-restricted" because Ruger made it that way. So far as I know, is no legal way in Canada that I can saw off a similar Ruger 77 to that length, without my work becoming "prohibited". I did not make those "rules" - makes no sense to me, but there they are, apparently.

I am attempting to assemble a Swede m94 carbine - using a NOS m94 barrel that I bought from TradeEx some years ago - that Carl Gustaf armoury made surplus barrel is 17.7" long - so is less than the magic 18" for Canada - but is factory made to that length, so the result is apparently Non-Restricted. However, if I took a m96 barrel and turned it down to be exactly the same - what I made would be a "prohibited" - would be up to the Crown to "prove" to a judge which one was made at Carl Gustaf armoury in Sweden, and which one was made in my workshop in Manitoba - I do not have that Swede Crown stamp - would be the only difference. An original Carl Gustaf made m94 barrel is not marked with cartridge, caliber or maker - it just has that lone Swede Crown stamping on it.
 
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The factory barrel cannot be cut to less than 18". If you are rebarreling, the barrel can be shorter, as long as the overall length exceeds 26".
 
tiriaq said:
The factory barrel cannot be cut to less than 18". If you are rebarreling, with an unaltered barrel makers barrel, the barrel can be shorter, as long as the overall length exceeds 26".
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I believe that you are correct, but for clarity, I added a "bolded" part into your post. I think that is still correct.
 
I happen to have a nice 18 1/2 factory 788 .308 take-off barrel. I think it would be a bad idea to cut it @16" and install it.
Let's say I have a .30 barrel blank. I machine the breech, cut a .308 chamber, cut and crown it @16" and install it. I think this would be legal.
 
I think you are correct. In the first instance you are "altering" a barrel by shortening it - I suspect in the second case there was no "altering" that occurred to a pre-existing barrel. Hard to understand why it is that the first would be "verboten", whereas the second is okay - the end result of the two could be two things that are EXACTLY THE SAME, except maybe for some roll stampings.
 
tiriaq said:
I happen to have a nice 18 1/2 factory 788 .308 take-off barrel. I think it would be a bad idea to cut it @16" and install it.
Let's say I have a .30 barrel blank. I machine the breech, cut a .308 chamber, cut and crown it @16" and install it. I think this would be legal.
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Wouldn't they look at the specs the rifle came with from the factory? You might get away with that on a total custom build, but slapping a 16" Lilja on a Remington 788 might be a no-no.
 
bearkilr said:
Wouldn't they look at the specs the rifle came with from the factory? You might get away with that on a total custom build, but slapping a 16" Lilja on a Remington 788 might be a no-no.
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I could not find what part of that would be in violation of the Canada Criminal Code - take a blank from Lilja - cut to 16" length, then crown it - then thread and chamber - and install to the receiver. At no point was a pre-existing barrel "altered" to be shorter than 18" - see definition of "prohibited firearm" in Section 84 of CCC - especially that part (b) - a link is available in Post #9 - as if that part of CCC more concerned with HOW you got there, rather than WHAT you ended up with. As I posted above - I have a Ruger Compact rifle with 16.5" barrel - fully non-restricted. I could start with a longer barrel from another Ruger 77 and turn about identical - end up with two pretty much identical rifles - the one that I bought is non-restricted - the one that I would make is prohibited, I think. Makes no sense to me.

As far as "specs" from factory - is several rifles here that I unscrewed the original barrel and screwed on and head-spaced another chambering - often another factory take-off barrel - but not in all cases - but as it lives now, is NOT how it left the factory. 22" or 24" barrels, mostly - but, in one case is a factory barrel chambered for 243 Win that I shortened and crowned at 19", before installing it; in another case is a 9.3x57 chambered barrel that I shortened and crowned at 20".

And it will likely make some heads spin to find out some European gun makers used to put the serial number on the barrel - not on the receiver - I understand that was the law that they operated under, then. So unscrew that barrel, screw on a spare mil-surp barrel that has no serial number either, and end up with a barrelled action with no serial number at all. Serial numbers were not removed or "defaced" - they were never stamped there at all - in those days.
 
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Potashminer said:
I could not find what part of that would be in violation of the Canada Criminal Code - take a blank from Lilja - cut to 16" length, then crown it - then thread and chamber - and install to the receiver. At no point was a pre-existing barrel "altered" to be shorter than 18" - see definition of "prohibited" in Section 84 of CCC - especially that part (b) - a link is available in Post #9 - as if that part of CCC more concerned with HOW you got there, rather than WHAT you ended up with. As I posted above - I have a Ruger Compact rifle with 16.5" barrel - fully non-restricted. I could start with a longer barrel from another Ruger 77 and turn about identical - end up with two pretty much identical rifles - the one that I bought is non-restricted - the one that I would make is prohibited, I think. Makes no sense to me.
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If someone runs the serial number on that gun, it won't show the specs with the new short barrel, that's all I'm trying to say.

So if i take my 20" bbl Win 94 and put a 16" bbl on it, I now have a M94 Trapper? I've never seen one for sale that didn't come from the factory as a Trapper.
 
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