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shanedapane

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To do, or not to do?

This week my wife decided she wanted a new rifle, stepping up from a 7-08 to a 7mm RM. I have tried a few methods of making my wife's rifle tolerable for her as recoil goes. She loves the feel of it, how light it is, the looks of it, and so on.

When I told her this was the last resort due to the noise, her answer was "if you don't like it, plug your ears." LOL
 
Brakes to reduce the recoil alot, although they do increase the sound u can curve that by buying properly fitting ear muffs and doubling up with custom made ear inserts.

I have a brakes on one of my rifles and although it blasts air at the guy next to me and is loud as hell its worth it.
 
You should not BREAK the muzzle of ANY rifle!! It will throw accuracy out so far that you will never hit the broad side of a barn with it.

However, should you choose to BRAKE the muzzle, then that would be different. And could help to increase accuracy. However, I firmly believe that if you need to install a muzzle brake, then you should be shooting a lighter recoiling rifle.

JMHO
 
Adding a brake to your rifle also lowers your recovery time for the next shot regardless of how low or high your caliber is on the rifle.

and to the spelling Nazis, give the guy a BREAK :p
 
Jwirecom109 said:
Adding a brake to your rifle also lowers your recovery time for the next shot regardless of how low or high your caliber is on the rifle.
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I haven't come across this yet, and I've read quite a bit about brakes over the passed few days. How so?

I spelled it wrong on purpose so people would actually stop and reply. :onCrack:
 
shanedapane said:
I haven't come across this yet, and I've read quite a bit about brakes over the passed few days. How so?

I spelled it wrong on purpose so people would actually stop and reply. :onCrack:
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With less recoil the firearms puts less stress on your body, so it doesn't shift as much to over compensate for the recoil, so if u wanted to take a second shot your body is in a better postion to fire as it didn't have to compensate as much for the recoil.
 
I installed a brake on a 300RUM for my brother. It was the first time I was around a brake, and I have to say I am impressed. Unreal the difference it made. After reading all the guys saying "DONT DO IT" I was a bit worried. So I did some reading and bought a Vais, they are supposed to be one of the "quieter" brakes on the market. Yes, if you are standing beside it its louder, but if you are the shooter it isnt near as bad as what people say it is. Will I start adding brakes to all my rifles? of course not, but if its recoil she doesnt like the brake will help very much.
 
Well since your asking for opinions, I would not put a brake on it for any reason. She had all she needed with the 7-08. Unless of course it was an ugly rifle.

Options might be use a sled if she just shoots off the bench, or a shoulder pad, learning to put up with the recoil or if you reload make some rounds that aren't full blown hunting loads for her to practice with.
 
I too, wonder why you would want to go from one of the best calibres available, for any hunting around Hartney Manitoba, to a heavier kicking magnum.
 
Noel said:
Well since your asking for opinions, I would not put a brake on it for any reason. She had all she needed with the 7-08. Unless of course it was an ugly rifle.

Options might be use a sled if she just shoots off the bench, or a shoulder pad, learning to put up with the recoil or if you reload make some rounds that aren't full blown hunting loads for her to practice with.
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Sell it and buy her a 280.

I agree with Noel - the 7mm-08 has worked for a long time, why change something that ain't broke?
 
I will not wear double hearing protection while hunting, so I will never own another braked rifle. A single shot from a braked rifle can cause permanent damage to a persons hearing. One of our club members was unlucky enough to have proven this for us. He fired one shot out of a braked 300winmag without hearing protection, his ears rang for hours, and subsequent hearing tests verified that his hearing was permanently effected.
 
A muzzle break will definitely reduce felt recoil, however the "kick" is only part of the equation that leads to a flinch. Noise is also a factor as well as proper fit.
I have a muzzle brake on my Tikka T3 Lite in .338 Federal and I won't shot it without hearing protection.
A better route for the 7mm RM would be to have the stock shortened, a Limbsaver or other quality recoil pad installed so the stock fits her perfectly. Good stock fit and a quality recoil pad should tame the 7mm RM enough.
If you do go the muzzle break route, never shoot it without ear defenders. I use a set of Peltor electronics so I can still hear normally until the shot is fired.
Jerry
 
All rifles will cause hearing loss to an unprotected ear. Its just a matter of when.
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I take hearing tests every two years at my place of work. After 31 years, of hunting without hearing protection, but wearing hearing protection while target shooting, and at work, my hearing test normal. Yet the club member that I mentioned in an earlier post, displayed a significant loss of hearing between his previous hearing test, and the one taken after firing the single shot with a braked rifle. Prior to that shot, his hearing tested normal.

I don't know about you, but I see a significant difference between having normal hearing after over over 35 years of hunting without hearing protection, and suffering significant hearing loss, after a single shot with a braked rifle.
 
Install the brake!
Even on a light kicking gun, I like a brake. I like to see my shot impact and that's a lot easier with a brake.

The fact is that any centerfire rifle will damage the hearing of the person doing the shooting. I have a .221 FireBall with a 28" barrel, and even with light loads (1000 fps, 55 grn bullet) it's too loud for bare ears.

Which isn't as much of a handicap as it would have been 15 years ago.

I also love my electronic hearing protectors! I have Peltors and Walkers; but the Radians are my fav.
With them turned-on, I can hear better than I can hear with bare ears. The shot is like a pop, and they switch back on fast enough I can often hear the bullet impact.

In short, put the brake on it, if it turns-out she doesn't like it, it'll come off. No big deal.
 
I'm going to step in here for what it's worth.
All the info above is accurate as far as the typest goes.
I own one muzzle brake/break.
Here's my story and I'm not looking for a reply/argument or a bacci ma culo either.
My dad died and in my possession is his well used, well beat up, well experienced and
true to my word a well blessed rifle.
It sat in my locker for many a moon and on a quiet night I could hear a moan.
I brought it out of the shadows and had a heart to heart with it.
I agreed to have a muzzle beak put on it, if in fact it would perform and do me proud.
I did some conversing to fellow hunters and one chap I have known for a very long time
said doooooooo.........it.
A half inch of barrel or so of thread will not go noticed for the threads of the recoil reducer as I like to call it.
I have trusted a fellow by the name of David and he has designed his own recoil system.
He installed his version of his system on my Pa's old Schultz $ Larsen and I haven't looked
back. The recoil is far less than I would have anticipated and less than he would state.
He erred on the side of honesty.
The fit was superb as would attest of his craftsmanship.
His design offers less noise than the conventional muzzle brakes as he angles the side
holes forward instead of the conventional 90* exit holes.
So this old gal does come out with me more so than not.
And she doesn't let me down.
When the trigger is pulled, to this date, the fur falls. I do not flinch for recoil.
This part of the equation is set aside and I am recoil sensitive.
Pop bought this Schultz new when I was just a lad and I have memories of what dad
brought home every year as far as fur goes.
It is of my humble opinion that what you own is yours.
Your after tax dollars are hard earned and you are entitled to do as you wish to what you
decide to do to alter your hunting firearms to make them confortable for you to enjoy.
Sight them, scope them, chop the wood, AI them, scribble on them, chop the barrel, brake them, break them, giddeupgo. A couple minutes, hours, decibles of hearing are to me worth
the trophy.......???????
In a hundred years it ain't gonna matter.
ENJOY......
I'm going to toss a couple loonies on this one.
Looky.
 
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