muzzle loader bullets

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i am new to muzzle loading.will i be able to use canpro plated .458" bullets with sabots for a cheaper practice and sight in round if the hunting bullets i use are the same weight.i saw on a website that advertised plain lead and sabots for that purpose and it stated that point of impact was virtually the same.i would fire the hunting bullets to verify but the cheaper bullets would get me close
 
Not an expert at all with ML's, but I would think that a .458 bullet would be a touch fat for ease of loading, unless you were using one of the thinner/easy glide type of sabots. Even then...
I noticed a fair bit of difference between unsized cast bullets (.454-ish) versus Hornady jacketed .451 bullets in a ML. While the cast bullets "seemed" to group tighter, there was a noticeable amount of extra force required to seat them. I guess there's only one way to find out! Let us know how it goes.
 
Apparently there are 2 different thicknesses of sabots depending on whether you want to use 0.451 or 0.458 bullets. It might take some googling around but they are out there.
 
For your .50 caliber ML, a readily available choice for sabots/bullets would likely be .450"-.452". Think of .45 caliber pistol bullet diameter. These can be purchased in a variety of bullet types and weights. Plus, offer good accuracy and performance. While you're at it, also consider .44 caliber saboted bullets. These are good performers, too. Hornady .44 caliber, 240 grain HP XTP bullets a longtime favourite choice for many hunters.
MMP does manufacture sabots for .458" bullets though, if that is your preference. Likewise: Harvester. These can be purchased from Sporteque.
As for accuracy and performance, your rifle will soon let you know which load combination it prefers. I'd suggest starting at 80 grains Ffg,(or equivalent), for hunting loads, then work up in 5 grain increments. In most cases, around 90-100 grains seems to be the sweet spot, for .50 caliber rifles. With some rifles delivering good accuracy and performance up to around 120 grains. Only load experimentation will tell you which is best, in your individual rifle.
Yes...you can load them up to the max (150 grains in some rifles) if you like. But, it's been my experience that the recoil and often poor accuracy that comes with a bad flinch, often negates any power advantage.
Your overall accuracy should remain about the same, depending on bullets chosen for plinking, versus hunting. If the same weight and powder charge.
 
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Might be helpful to hear what you are shooting first ? Type of rifle rate of twist powder that you want to use
i have a knight disc and lk-93.was planning on using triple 7 pellets,not sure twist rate.found sabots in .452 and .458 at my local gun shop.picked up some .452 and some sierra flat tip 300 grain pistol bullets to try.they also had boxes of .452 250 grain rnfp in cast lead but 500 in the box.thats a lot of shooting.have to wait for my shooting range to dry up before i can do any shooting
 
I shoot a knight disc I use a harvester sabot (green) and a Hornady .44 cal 240 gr 90 gr loose 3fg triple seven as for your LK-93 very much the same as my MK85 I used the all lead conical 320 gr sitting on 80 gr 3fg loose triple seven
I shoot muzzleloaders a lot ... you will limit your performance with the pellets.... I get it its the convenience and simple stupid ...I tend to go away from the sabots as there is an extra cost..... I cast my own conicals make my own lube and then it is only powder and primers cheap fun all day long. I will be trying a .451 White this year again casting my own bullets and also a round ball 54 cal side hammer gun
 
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