bone-collector said:its a grizzly bear thing and you wouldnt understand!
well I said I wouldnt post to this thread in my mind but as everyday someone else comes back as a pro grizz hunter and starts tire kickin.
I have known TB personaly for about 4 years now, hunted with him, visited, dealt with etc and I can tell you now that if I had to pick someone in a hurry to back me up I wouldnt hesitate to ask him to do it on a grizz hunt, he WASNT hunting with a dam sks or a remington 710 and hes not a newbie shooter or hunter.
Until you have experienced a few grizz going down and see what there capible of and dont be compairing your 4 foot 5 black bear to this, then exept the fact these animals are just azzhole tearin mean tuff, some do die in 1 shot or 2, Ive seen them with a 458 slug through the shoulders push themselves with there hind feet 200 yards, Ive seen them break cable leg snares and destroy houselog sized trees and Ive seen what they will do to a human if they get ahold of you when wounded! Ive also seen them pick a 700 pound moose up like a breifcase and walk away with it
the only thing TB did here I would give him a cuff for is not sitting still for a while longer, a mistake many of us make every year while hunting, but a bad mistake when hunting grizz IMO
Don't really think I was tire kicking, NOT even really critizing the guy. I read the whole spread of posts to this thread before I made my reply. The one post a few back someone mentioned that there was more to this story. The one point that stuck out for me was the mention of TB's partner (who took the first shot) not zeroing his rifle. To me that is pretty significant as to why that bear did not go down and was able to scram away over two klicks. (were not talking about a bear that was hit good here, one that tuff as you say could still bolt 200 yards as you have seen. Well even 1000 yards to me would not be unreasonable if it was shot through the lungs) But TB mentions that this bear was gone over two klicks and the lost the blood trail. Ok #### happens, but my question still stands, is what the other guy said true? Did the first shot come from a rifle which was zeroed or not?
Because if it was not properly zeroed you now have too much error in your claim of a good hit, you honestly cannot be confident of your shot placement right or wrong?
Now if what the guy said about TB's partners rifle not being zeroed is BS, then ok fine. I would trust that it was a good shot, one where the bullet hit what he was aiming for.
Your comment of "its a griz thing and you wouldn't understand" seems an unfair comment. Yes it is true I have never hunted grizzly bear, but that really is not the point. It's a sad thing to wound such a beast, I only was trying to get more info on why this bear was able to get away with the story being two well placed shots in the vital area. Also I don't think the claim that somehow the same bear survived and was able to carry on life as normal by re-visiting that same rubbing tree to have another back scratch can possibly hold any water.
If that bear is still alive, he probably is five valleys away never to come back by now, I mean if they are as someone else posted here, so smart as to pack their wounds with mud to stop the bleeding, then they should be so smart as to not go back to the same scene of getting two well placed high power rifle slugs put into him RIGHT?
Maybe your right though, if they waited alittle longer, the griz may have bedded down and bled out, but the bottom line is either there is a real pissed off wounded grizzly out there, or he died a slow death. Both options SUCK. Reality hurts, but thats the way I see it.
I did congrat them on their tracking attempt, and at least they tried to find him.
Either way the grizz hunts will be a thing of the past anyway pretty soon as the science (true or not) gets out to the public on their low numbers, so you guys should endeavour to make your shots count the best you can because you don't want to loose the chance to get your bear b4 you can't hunt them anymore.
Can you handle that?
