My bent T81

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Scatter.John

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Looking for a bit of advice from the CGN community.


So I picked up a 2017 t81 folder off of EE about a year ago. I was vaguely aware of the bent issue, the seller assured me it was straght, and I took him on his word. I'm now about 700-800rds into the gun and am noticing a slight bend to the right and offset of the front sight/gas block. Now this bend seems quit minor and I only noticed it after staring at it for a solid minute or two.

Now my current plan is not resell the gun, I intend to feed this rifle a steady diet of the cheapest communist ammunition I can find and just let'er eat.

My question to you all is should I be worried about any major safety concerns? The rivets, are rock solid and the rifle seems to function 100%, with zero change in its minute of man accuracy.

Thanks in advance.
 
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buzzmagoo said:
Does it group well or is it all over the place ? If its shooting and functioning well and ya can hit what your aiming at I wouldn't worry about it. It just adds character
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That's kinda what I'm thinking. Cant say I've ever grouped it but it seems to slap steel well enough. Just wanted to make sure theres no major red flags going up that I'm missing.
 
I doubt TI will have the capacity to do anything.

They dont have the stock to replace it, its too old to issue a refund. And apparently its too embarrassing for them to admit the bends exist. SO what they will do is simply tell u that ur looking at the gun wrong. Your probably cross eyed, have a malformed skull or the gas cover is creating a David Copperfield class optical illusion.
 
I would tend to agree, it is a minor enough bend in my opinion. Figured it was a good idea to get a second opinion. Also I dont think it's worth contacting the importer about a second hand rifle. I enjoy your YouTube videos btw Murray.
 
Its not bent it is assembled slightly to one side or the other.
Receiver to front forging fit .
The question i have is does anyone know why.?
The other question is has anyone broken off bolt lugs or cracked a front forging yet.
Have you figured it out yet.?
 
Would not swap bolts from one t81 to the next without checking anyone get it yet.??

I know there are machinists out there and they know about front forging ,bolts ,bolt lugs and how the barrel is set in the front forging for head spacing .
Ak type barrel install not ar-15.
What i am saying is there is a reason for this and a tolerance of side mounting to keep this in spec.
You may have to have more than one t 81 to figure it out by measuring the bolt lugs individually.
I know there is a great amount of experience out there so i am confident there is an answer for this bent assembly.
 
The type 81,s I have are all different in alignment but the bolts are square in the front forging .
would think if the receiver was mounted crooked the bolt would not line up properly and there would be failures all over the place.
Would not engage locking lugs properly and things would be out of spec.
I think they do this to avoid tolerance stacking (ar guys know what this is)
Bolts square, head space is correct receiver is off a little one side or other .
I don't think china cares if it shoots that is all I am saying.
Basically if the lugs on bolt engage front forging square and head spacing on chamber looks good it should last and shoot reliably.
Always open to others observations and opinions.
 
When you have a Army of over 2 million soldiers, you cant afford to issue them all a C7 grade rifle. They had to make the Type 81 cheap, but yet effective enough to meet performance expectations. This means putting in sloppy allowance's / tolerances were it doesnt truly matter. To the PLA armory doctrine I bet stain splotches dont matter, canted pistol grips and folding stocks dont matter, gritty triggers dont matter, generous headspace doesnt matter, barely visible misaligned trunnions dont matter. " Side mount optics ? piffff we cant afford to give them those". I bet if anyone could stroll through a Chinese factory and watch a Type 81 be assembled start to finish and how much it actually cost to do it. They would understand EXACTLY why the Type 81sa they are holding in their hands looks the way it does.

Optic endeavors for the Type 81 as far as I can gather were only pursued in limited cases across few countries. The Chinese decided to make handguard optic setups. The Bangladeshis and Cambodians ? added receiver mounted side rails. For the project they probably just had armorers sift thru the crates of Type 81s and visually picked the straightest ones for modification. A process i think the Soviets also did with their sniper projects back in WW2.
 
To prevent further bending of your gun, you’re supposed to switch hands periodically while shooting.
 
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