My experience loading for the 38-55

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My first 38-55 was an old Winchester Model 1894 octagon barreled rifle made in 1899 according to the factory letter. Slugging the bore, I got a groove diameter that varied from .379 to .382, depending upon whether I was measuring the leading edge of the groove or the trailing edge. I've listed a few things I encountered that may be of some help to others.

  • .379 hard cast (20 BHN), bevel base bullets, didn't shoot worth a hoot. The same bullet sized to .380 was not too bad.
  • Soft cast was the way to go (8 BHN). .379 soft cast, bevel base bullets give me five shot groups of about 2 to 3" at 100 yards.
  • For the soft cast bullets, bumping them up gave better accuracy. For example, faster (say, SR 4759) powder gave more accurate results than slower stuff like IMR 3031.
  • Medium fast powders like 2400, 5744, 4227, and SR4759 seemed to be better than slower powders like IMR 4198 and IMR 3031. I believe this was because, for the same velocity, the faster powders gave a higher pressure spike, causing the soft cast lead bullet to bump up to seal the bore better.
  • Toilet paper filler gave a substantial improvement in accuracy and burning consistency. I haven't tried cornmeal to see what it would do.
Here's my opinion:

  • For traditional velocities (i.e., 1,200 to 1,500 fps), stay away from hard cast bullets.
  • I'm not a big fan of bevel base bullets. In my opinion, they are for people you don't like to slightly flare the case mouths, but they don't do diddley for accuracy.
  • Soft cast (I would included wheel weights) bullets are the way to go, with a plain base. If you are rich, use a gas check.
  • 2400, IMR 4227, IMR SR4759 and 5744 all seem to work well.
  • Toilet paper covers a multitude of sins. It is the poor man's gas check and it also holds the powder agin the primer. I like it and use it for the 38-55 for normal loads.
I've had two other old 38-55's, sold one of them and still have the SRC. The above approach works for all of them. None of the above applies for 1,600 fps and higher. I've not much experience in the stratosphere.
 
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Im loading mine with soft casts (like pistol) and Red Dot with great result.I wish i could try Green Dot-i heard its even better.
Other than that my favorite load is 3 gr of IMR 3031+ full case of FF BP and wad.Lots of fun :)
All this feeds my H&R single shot...

btw-wrong forum,this should be in reloading
 
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