My first ever Rifle choice

shinez

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Hi, Guys:
I just got the license,before i have zero experience of this:-(
so went to the shop to looking for my first ever Rifle:p
For this gun, my purpose is can hunt some small games like hare.

So the following are the combination i like:

Rifle: Ruger 10/22 stainless Model 01256 .22LR semi-auto
Scope: Nikon 3-9*40 BDC150
Ammunition: WINCHESTER 333 .22LR

Could you share with me your opinion?

Thanks a lot:)
 
The takedown version need pay more, so i refused:)
So how you clean your gun? they recommend me the Bore snake rifle cleaner,is that ok?
 
Savage cheapo wood and blued bolt action with 5 round mag ($225) Simmons 22mag fixed 4x scope ($60) weaver bases ($6) and crappy rings ($15). That's a first rate practise rig for "hunting and sporting arms". You'll probably hunt with a bolt, and you should train like you'll hunt.
 
I have a 10/22 as well. Decent gun, shot many others that belong to friends that I shoot as well and like them all better. 12 cents a round to get familiar with firearms, trigger control ext makes the 10/22 a great starter gun and a fun one at that. Being a semi auto however it is very picky about ammo, some works well, some doesn't cycle well. Some is fairly clean burning and some is just filthy. A bore snake from time to time is a great thing sure, but that is only going to clean the barrel, not the gun. You will find many videos on you tube about complete disassembly and cleaning and it is not very hard. To use a proper bore brush you will need to disassemble the action or remove the barrel causing you to lose zero.

As far as a bolt action being too much work, thats ridiculous. A bolt action will give you better ballistics as I understand it as energy is not being stolen to cycle the action, and it will force you to slow down and concentrate on your shooting more.

Whatever you choose, it will be your first firearm, but it will not be your last.
 
Only suggestion from me is to use different ammo: Winchester White box (or Wildcat) is cheap for a reason, and I'm not buying any more of it. Oh, it works, for sure: I rarely have a dud! But when you have four holes in a tight group and one flyer 3" below, you can never know whether that was because of you, or because of the cheap ammo going all over the place.

I have good results with CCI Mini Mag, and I heard they cycle well in the 10/22.
 
A 10/22 is a decent enough hunting rifle, but I don't endorse it as a first rifle. A good bolt action rifle is a better choice from a marksmanship training point of view, as a semi-auto by design has a more difficult trigger to manage. A CZ-452 is an excellent rifle for your initiation to the shooting world, and its not a bad hunting rifle either. Once you've become accustomed to cycling the bolt at the shoulder, the apparent advantage of a semi-auto diminishes, particularly when the difference in trigger quality is considered. A younger fellow I work with dismissed this point of view saying that bolt guns were boring and no fun for a kid, so bought his son a 10/22. My response was if he wasn't going to shoot good, he'd have to shoot lots, but there is more than one way to look at the question, and my opinion is only one. Personally I think one's performance on paper should be established before live targets are engaged, and a shooter's confidence is greater if he can keep his bullets within a half inch of his aiming point, compared to an inch or more. Shoot an inch from your intended point of impact, and that red squirrel will live to chatter another day.

Another consideration is whether or not you want to learn to use iron sights. A scope makes sighting much easier because it puts the target and the aiming point in simultaneous focus, where as your eye cannot focus on 3 or even 2 objects (opens sights require the acquisition of the rear sight, front sight, and target, and with a rear peep sight you're just concerned with the front sight and the target) at different distances from the eye. Your focus alternates between each, so you can first align the sights, then center the front sight on the target, finally shifting your focus to it, the moment before you press the trigger. Shooting with irons is certainly not mandatory, but I believe it makes you a better shooter if you use them enough to gain an understanding of their relationship with the target, and the better the sights, the easier it is to improve with them.

Where I see a 10/22 at it's best is as a trapper's gun for dispatching animals caught in traps, and for securing a grouse or ptarmigan for lunch. The 10/22 stands up to use in difficult environments, it will digest hundreds and hundreds of rounds before it won't fire, and if it fires it will cycle, provided high velocity ammo is used. The big bulky magazines can be readily retrieved from a parka pocket, without having to remove your mitts or gloves. Its short, quick and handy, making it a good choice to carry on a snow machine, although for me it doesn't point intuitively. So it does have a lot going for it, but for all it's advantages, the 10/22 is not a rifleman's rifle.
 
Personally I'd start off with a bolt action .22lr vs a semi to help with slowing down and concentrating on fundamentals/accuracy.

Hard to beat the Savage bolt actions. I like 10/22's but when something needs taking care of with a .22 I always grab the bolt vs the 10/22 for accuracy.

Just my opinion but anyone starting out with a bolt vs a semi is better off.
 
I had a 10/22( takedown), I liked it and was stoked that I could travel easily on my motorcycle with it because of the case. Because of the case, however, I could only fit a fairly poor quality shorter length scope, so I sold it.
Then I saw that my favourite gun retailer had a new Remington 597 .22 on for ridiculously cheap ($139). I bought it and fitted a Bushnell 3-9 x32 $50 .22 rimfire scope that had excellent reviews. It is amazingly accurate at 50 yards, and also at 100 (hard to get a good grouping as the scope is not a BDC scope, and zeroed in at 50yds. )My only complaint is the bolt sometimes does not lock open after the last round, or it is difficult to lock the bolt open half way through a magazine, as when a cease fire is called.
Apart from that, it is a very capable and enjoyable gun to shoot.
2500 rounds later I have had no complaints about the magazines failing either.
In regards to scopes, that Nikon looks really nice, and having the BDC is really nice. The Vortex droptine line is also quite nice if it is similar or less in price…

If you get "Look Thru" higher mount scope rings, you'll be able to use both your iron sights and the scope. (although it's said that the closer the scope is to the bore, the more accurate it will be, hasn't been my case.) Best of both worlds if you ask me.
In regards to cleaning, I like to use a boresnake, but I don't feel it is enough.
Every 3rd or 4th outing, I'll run a brass brush up and down the bore using my gun cleaning kit. Next I'll use cloth swabs on a gun cleaning rod soaked in Hoppes #9 and run them through the barrel. Continue until the swabs are clean, and then put some Rem Oil (or any other gun oil) on a swab and run it up and down the barrel to protect it.
Don't be afraid to strip down the gun into parts. Most manuals show you how to do this.
Have fun!
 
A good bolt action rifle is a better choice from a marksmanship training point of view .......

I'd go with all the suggestions made in this post. For someone with a budget constraint, the Ruger American Rimfire is a well made, very accurate and fairly inexpensive rifle that may be considered.

I liked the CZ 455 too, but was getting too expensive and fragile(wood stock) for a starter rifle.

Actually, the CZ will be much more robust in comparison.
 
I started with a bolt but ached for a lever gun and as soon as I could afford it I bought myself one...then another...then another...anyway I still love my lever 22s and have had excellent accuracy and speed rivalling a sa and the rifle is not loaded every time it fires unless I want it to be..........semi's are for people who are very familiar with firearms and have learned to instinctively manage their muzzle AT ALL TIMES. My son at 15 has been shooting for 10 years and I still do not allow him to take his rifles out without my direct supervision because I do not believe that he has learned this very simple rule 100% yet.
 
The Stevens/Savage 300F are nice. nothing fancy about but they are fast handling and work great. I didn't think it was that great at the time I made the video but after hunting with it I absolutely love this rifle. it's fast and handy. perfect grouse and rabbit gun! It has managed to sideline my favourite rifle (my 10/22) as well as my browning SA22.


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Both neck shots at ~35m, not bad.
 
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