My new CSA VZ-58 rifle in .223 (5.56 x 45 NATO)

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So, after some consideration and help from you guys regarding the newly manufactured CSA's, I cracked under pressure and ordered one. Wanstalls has the non-restricted 'sporter' for $949, which is $50 cheaper than Epps. It's the first time I ordered from Wanstall's , but must say that I've received great service from these guys... shipping was cheap ($20) + the rifle was shipped out DHL almost instantly. I definitely won't hesitate to buy from them again!

Anywho, the VZ came in the original CSA cardboard box which was covered with brown shipping paper so that the contents (CSA logo on cardboard box) is not visible. Great thinking by Wanstalls, because I hate it when some people ship guns with a shipping label and some clear shipping tape on the original box (simply because Canada Post and my neighbors have no business knowing what's in my packages).

First impressions about the rifle:
Having owned 2 CZ-858s, I was very pleasantly surprised with the rifle's overall quality. The black finish is much better looking than the CZ rifles, but it is definitely not "blueing". It looks/feels like some sort of smooth powder coating/parkerizing. I don't mind, as it probably protects the rifle much better from corrosion than blueing. The bore/chamber are definitely not chrome lined, as they look dark-greyish throughout. The cool thing about the .223 version is that the barrel is now thicker due to a smaller bullet diameter, so perhaps it will have better accuracy than the 7.62x39 version. In other words, the .223 is a slightly "heavier" barrel by default, which I find great (as it hasn't even occurred to me prior to buying the rifle).

Another pleasant surprise was that, despite what the manufacturer's rep is now saying (North Sylva), my non-restricted came with a scope rail factory pre-installed, which is obviously another BIG plus. I don't know if CSA will remove that feature to save costs in the future, but if they do, it will be a huge shame. The scope rail is nicely fitted into the receiver and looks like it belongs on the gun, even if you don't have optics mounted. It does not obstruct any markings/serial number either, because they are all stamped on the upper-front part of the receiver, near the rear sight.

Finally, it also came with an all inclusive cleaning kit. It has a "Stilcrin" 3-piece cleaning rod (with the middle sections of the shafts made out of slightly flexible red-colored plastic, which is a great idea) and includes three different types of cleaning tips. It also came with an L-shaped punch, a steel oil bottle and a green storage pouch that contains all of these items. The gun also included the clip-on cheek piece (for shooting scoped, I guess), a rubberized butt pad for the skeleton stock and a black military-style sling. The package also included a CD which contains the manual and some stuff about the rifle's history (you'll need a computer to play it, obviously).


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(Image from CSA's website. Note: my Vz-58 came with two black non-transparent plastic mags)


Here are some pics of my rifle (Blackberry pics, sorry for the bad quality):

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As a final addition, Wanstalls also included a nice mouse pad in my package. That was a great little gift, because I wanted to get a mouse pad for one of my computers in the near future, so they kind of took care of that for me as well, lol! :D

Overall, I am very satisfied with my purchase... now if I can manage to find some cheap boxer-primed .223 ammo... I'll be planning a range trip soon!

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congrats .


im confused , the CSA pic above is a 16 " barrel and wanstall site say 16.14" barrel but you bot a non-rest.
 
That is a very nice piece of kit. Are you planning on using that scope rail for optics, and if so, what are you mounting on it? Please give us a range report as soon as possible as I am interested in seeing what kind of accuracy that this is capable of - especially if it is scoped.
 
Another pleasant surprise was that, despite what the manufacturer's rep is now saying (North Sylva), my non-restricted came with a scope rail factory pre-installed, which is obviously another BIG plus. I don't know if CSA will remove that feature to save costs in the future, but if they do, it will be a huge shame. :

btw , nice initial review .

non-rest from sylva isnt expected till mid july so the CSA non-rest you have could be from wolverine , that will explain the side rail.
 
Well, my rifle DID come with a warranty card that I'm supposed to mail to Wolverine for some reason... even though it was bought at Wanstalls. In other words, the rifle did come through Wolverine at some point, I guess (hence the card inside the box).

As for the picture off the CSA website, I thought it was a non-restricted, although I might be mistaken. Anywho, mine came with the non-restricted .223 barrel on it and is registered as such (and hopefully not for too long when the CPC finally introduces the long gun registry deletion Bill). I haven't really noticed that the one in the 1st pic is shorter, my apologies.

As for the scope, I have two... both are POSP scopes, one is a 4x and the other is an 8x (for Dragunov-type rifles) with an illuminated reticule. I haven't tried fitting them yet, but I am sure they'll do just fine (I don't even remember where I've put them, lol - I ordered these like 7-8 years ago from Ukraine and they've been in storage ever since). The only drawback is that they're configured for the 7.62 x54R and my new rifle is a .223... in other words, the scopes' range notches will be off because of the different caliber, hence I might just buy a weaver-type adapter and mount a .223-specific scope & rings somewhere down the line... or a Walther red dot sight, which I already have. I'll probably just buy another CSA in 7.62x39 at a later time and use my scopes on that one, but only as long as they still come with the pre-mounted rail. If not, I'll probably just have a smith mount a rail on my CZ-858 and use that instead.

As for the range report... I'll try to make time off my schedule in the next few weeks to do some serious plinking!


And so... the fun of upgrades/modding begins. Reminds me of this poster : :D

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Congrats man, great buy.. welcome to the club. :)

Thanks. I've been in the VZ club for a while, just not with a CSA. And I must say I like this one a lot... well worth the extra dough, in my opinion. :D


ever since the advertisements about a .223 cal version of a Vz58 were released, I have had my eyes on them. I really want to know about shooting characteristics and magazine adapters etc...

The shooting characteristic is whatever you can get from the 5.56 NATO round and an 18" bore, I suppose.

As for mag adapters, CSA is supposed to release an adapter which will allow the use of AR-15 mags in these rifles and carbines... which is kind of a big reason why I got this in the first place (honestly, I was going to get a Robinson Arms XCR or a Swiss Arms Black Special in .223 instead, but then I saw the upcoming AR mag adapters being advertised for these and it caught my attention).

This is an interesting little rifle for sure. It does what it's supposed to at a fraction of the cost of other .223 "black" guns out there, plus has a ton of mods/upgrades available. A little healthy competition never hurts, right? If CSA delivers the mag adapters as promised, then maybe we'll see some considerable price drops on the other guys' $2,500 - $3,500 products soon (Robinson, Swiss, etc), as it kind of should be. Americans are complaining on their online forums because the XCR costs $1500 south of the border and apparently no one wants to buy them there because they're too expensive... now try $2500 MSRP for that same gun up in Canada!

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Nice buy,im too looking at the vz 58 in 223.

Other point other than the AR mag adapter,they will make a 22 lr conversion kit for the vz 58,so it make the vz 58 a very,very,very attractive rifle :)
 
Nice buy,im too looking at the vz 58 in 223.

Other point other than the AR mag adapter,they will make a 22 lr conversion kit for the vz 58,so it make the vz 58 a very,very,very attractive rifle :)

Interesting... I wonder if such an adapter will be simplified for the .223 version, since the bore diameter of a .22LR is .222 and the diameter of 5.56x45 is .224?

Some sort of a chamber sleeve, a new bolt and a modified mag could be all the .223 variant would need. Of course the 7.62x39 version would be a lot more complicated to do (because it will require either a barrel sleeve or a new barrel installed) and therefore the kits would probably be considerably more expensive for those.

However... the last problem is cycling and this is where I have all my doubts: would a VZ-58 bolt & bolt carrier actually cycle with the pressures generated by a .22LR? I kind of doubt that's even possible, as the gas piston alone probably needs more than a .22LR to move. All the .22LR AK versions seem to have tiny bolts and gas systems in order to function and apparently they still have reliability issues. So, unless CSA has some black magic up their sleeve, I wouldn't hold my breath too long for a .22LR kit, unfortunately (unless of course it's a single-shot type of a deal where you re-#### after every shot, which would kind of defy the purpose of a semi-auto firearm).

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