My Norinco 1911C

remote said:
Thanks for that info, Strickland.
After I first saw the photo that you posted, I went to lever's website http://www.leverarms.com/ The photo that they have posted doesn't look like your gun.
I also went to Marstar's website http://www.marstar.ca/gf-norinco/1911A1C.shtm and the photo that they have posted doesn't look like your gun either.
I guess that the photo's on those websites are pictures of older models.
Also noticed a huge difference in pricing - makes me wonder if I'm comparing apples to apples(?):confused:
Yep, Older models. The newer commanders have the holes in the triggers and the oblong slot in the hammers. Check out Gunnars website for his Tuned Commanders :D

http://www.armco-guns.com/New Guns For Sale.htm

P.S. you can Hotlink to Marstar, they are a supporting dealer.
 
remote said:
Oh yeah, I've been drooling over those for a little while now.
Looks like a great deal for only a few bucks more.
It's gotta be worth the extra $$ to get a professionally tuned gun. :rockOn:
I've got a Transfer in process :D I heard enough good things about the Armco pistols to make me snap one up.
 
Busta Capp said:
I couldn't take it anymore, I finally broke down and ordered a Commander from Gunnar. These newer versions look too good to pass up, plus tuned by Armco.....

Now, just have to sit back and be patient, be patient....

I had one all but packaged to go from Gunnar, but switched it for the Israel Arms M5000 (Norinco) model.

If the regular Norc is good, the M version is wicked. Closer to a cheap Springfield than any Springfield owner would admit.....I'd bet.

It has more bling, but the internals and parts are smoother, metal is better etc. Fixes most of the hard egdes the Norcs are famous for.
 
Thanks for the informative post Smoothbore.

I could get further into heat treating, including annealing, case hardening, gas carburizing, cyanide dips, etc. and the resulting pearlitic and/or martensitic grain structures, but frankly, unless you work in a foundry or have a mechanical engineering degree and understanding of materials science, it would be way too far over everyone's head so I'll try to keep this explanation understandable for the average fellow


Would somebody please kindly tell this ring-knocking pr1ck to go p1ss up a rope?
 
Craftsman 441 said:
Thanks for the informative post Smoothbore.




Would somebody please kindly tell this ring-knocking pr1ck to go p1ss up a rope?
I found that particular post to be one of the most helpful and informative that I have ever come across. I _do_ have some training in metallurgy and machining but did not feel at all insulted when he said he would keep things simple.

Before I give you any suggestions, do you have a rope handy? :wave:
 
Yeah, I think he was just honestly trying to help people understand. It was a hugely informative post and I was not at all insulted. Thanks Smoothbore!

Craftsman 441 said:
Thanks for the informative post Smoothbore.




Would somebody please kindly tell this ring-knocking pr1ck to go p1ss up a rope?
 
Schneider27 said:
So far..did someone had the chance to try the new grips from norinco vs the ergonomic grips armco is selling at 30$ ?

Schneider

I've handled one of the new Norc commanders with the rubber grip panels. They feel very good vs the old stock plastic wraparound ones. The new ones feel very much like the Hogue panels that I have on my NP-29. 'Course you can't beat the look of a nice set of checkered walnut double diamond grips either... :D
 
I have a Norinco Commander like the one pictured and had Gunner replace the sights with higher bigger 3 dot sights then replaced the rubber grips with Ivory and at the front of the pistol grip I ran a thin strip of skate boarders tape to fill the area between the pistol panel and it sure changed the feel of the grip. It seems to weld the pistol into my hand while firing. The white stocks set it off nicely as the finish is almost a black like blue. No its not my pimp gun ! lol !!
Gunner also tunned up the trigger and it has a very crisp let off that is not to light, just right. That man has talent.
Jack
 
Craftsman 441 said:
Thanks for the informative post Smoothbore.




Would somebody please kindly tell this ring-knocking pr1ck to go p1ss up a rope?

tell him yourself, he's a member here. In fairness the post was in reply originally to a half educated "commie crap steel isn't any good" post, and actually I believe it was first posted here, then moved to 1911.org and now has come back. Probably a year later, maybe more.

with regard to the pistol in question, mine was full of gritty crap, once I had taken it apart and cleaned it out it was much smoother (including the trigger). I'd recomend a couple of cans of WD40 and a bucket, there was even grit inside the mag release spring, it's like the sandblasting and assembly lines are side by side. Given what we pay for these, detail cleaning isn't a lot to ask, and as far as the finish quality is concerned it's at least as good as the finish on my Smith Model 10 revolver from 20 years ago.

PS Hungry's right - BUY TWO, if the US allows these back in the price will go up.
 
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Here is a copy of a post from a friend of mine who is an engineer in Ottawa...

I read this as it NOT being Smoothbore who made the underlined excerpt I quoted earlier. If I'm wrong about this, I'll PM Smoothbore myself.

Kveldulf said:
Before I give you any suggestions, do you have a rope handy? :wave:

Point taken. :redface:
My previous post isn't very constructive and it's rude, so my apology. The point I wanted to make is that qualifications do not always equal intelligence nor the ability to comprehend technical information. The statement that I quoted earlier is an example of that incorrect and arrogant attitude.

Again, my apologies. I would like to see this thread continue, because it is a wealth of USEFUL information on a great little pistol, and I am embarrased to have sullied it.
 
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