My Norinco M14 doesnt shoot :(

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Hey gun nuts.

So I brought my new norinco m14 to the range today, was all excited to zero it in and kill some apples. I get ready to take the first shot and....click. After waiting the recommended 30 seconds :) I took the cartridge out. had a little nick where the primer is, but not much. After trying 5 more like this I noticed the primers had either a tiny scratch or nothing. Seems to be something up with the bolt, yes?

Anyone have any insight/know a good gunsmith in Calgary?
 
Did you strip and clean it after you bought it?
I don't know much about AR's but a lot of Chinese guns ship with preservatives.
 
Can-down said:
Did you strip and clean it after you bought it?
I don't know much about AR's but a lot of Chinese guns ship with preservatives.
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True story, take apart the gun and pour some boiling water over the barrel and bolt (not the trigger group). let dry and try again. My grizzly 12guage came covered in a preservative residue stuff and thats what I was told to do.

To note I'm no expert, it's just what I've been told.
 
Take the bolt out of the rifle and shake it to see if the firing pin rattles..as it is supposed to . an easy fix is to use boiling water or use some brake cleaner in an aerosol can to get the cosmoline out....
 
hey that helps alot youre probably right. my brother had a hell of a time "starting" his sks but come to think of it he managed to get it going after firing several rounds. The cosmolene mustve just burnt off.

so ill blast that bolt/pin with some degreasing soap and water. This is okay to do to a firing pin?
 
If you have it, try break cleaner on the bolt, spray some down the firing pin, boiling water works but you should really use an aircompressor to spray out the water after. Break cleaner does not leave much residue. Or do both! Break cleaner then boiling water!

Harley, if breakfree or any aggressive solvent hits your plastic stock it could melt it. Better to strip the rifle down in it's parts. Clean every thing as best as you can. Then use the lubrication guide that has been stickied, this will also give you a chance to inspect the whole rifle.

On a side note, make sure you load your ammo in to the magazine *don't just let it sit in the reciver and when you pull the bolt back just let it fly and slam shut to load the round. I know on mine once I held on to it and guided the action closed and it never properly chamberd the round. Don't be afraid to man handle it! Just a small idea but it might work?

Hope that helps
 
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hey that helps alot youre probably right. my brother had a hell of a time "starting" his sks but come to think of it he managed to get it going after firing several rounds. The cosmolene mustve just burnt off.

so ill blast that bolt/pin with some degreasing soap and water. This is okay to do to a firing pin?
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Your brother is lucky he did not blow his face off.

NEVER EVER shoot a free-floating firing pin semi-auto unless you have disassembled the bolt and cleaned out the packing grease. If the firing pin doesn't retract easily as designed, you can get a slam fire while the gun is still out of battery - which can be a catastrophic failure.

The same is true of the M14. Some will just douse it in brake cleaner and call it 'done'. I don't consider that sufficient, PERSONALLY. I always tear it down all the way on a new bolt or rifle and I make 100% sure it is cleaned to bare metal, especially inside the firing pin channel.

When you re-assemble you do NOT oil the firing pin or the firing pin channel. I know it sounds counter-intuitive, but trust me, it's right. If you pop off a primer, the hot gases will turn the oil to cement and as the rifle cycles that round out, the next round could be a slamfire. Also, cold-weather performance of oiled firing pins is not ideal.
 
i also had an issue of misfire with just a nick on the bullet... im using the short mag...were you using a short or long mag?

my rifle was cleaned up before i went to the range.

i have installed a precision stock on my m-14...i have problems with the short mag... i guess it will cost me an extra 35 $....the ball and chain already gave me flak about the bipod i bought yesterday...
 
"...cosmolene must've just burnt off..." It doesn't. Cosmoline is thick petroleum jelly. Has to be cleaned out. A soaking in Varsol will take it out. Your brother likely had a wee burr though.
 
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Your brother is lucky he did not blow his face off.

NEVER EVER shoot a free-floating firing pin semi-auto unless you have disassembled the bolt and cleaned out the packing grease. If the firing pin doesn't retract easily as designed, you can get a slam fire while the gun is still out of battery - which can be a catastrophic failure.

The same is true of the M14. Some will just douse it in brake cleaner and call it 'done'. I don't consider that sufficient, PERSONALLY. I always tear it down all the way on a new bolt or rifle and I make 100% sure it is cleaned to bare metal, especially inside the firing pin channel.

When you re-assemble you do NOT oil the firing pin or the firing pin channel. I know it sounds counter-intuitive, but trust me, it's right. If you pop off a primer, the hot gases will turn the oil to cement and as the rifle cycles that round out, the next round could be a slamfire. Also, cold-weather performance of oiled firing pins is not ideal.
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Thats really good to know! especially the note about not oiling the pin. yeah im using the long mag.
 
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