My own MOA challenge, I lost....(pic warning)

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9x19p

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I didn't quite get 1 moa but I had an awesome day and learned a lot.

My range is less than ideal because I have no way of reading the wind. Between me and the target is a 150' deep valley so my only wind tape is at the firing line, and at around 880 yards. The target is at 900, it's the white dot to the left of my turret in the first pic. Its a 4x8 sheet of plywood with a 9" grid.

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The second pic is my tool of choice. :D I just got my new pod, today was the first day using it and I'm really happy with it. Rock solid and easy to adjust one handed. Great design Jerry, thanks again.

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And finally, the target. The bottom right was all me baby :p. The far left was all wind, but the 3 in the middle gave me a gun boner. It took a full 5 minutes to shoot this group, waiting on the wind. I didn't quite get it but I will. :cool: The .308 hole on the left is from my buddy, he shot two sub groups out of his factory 5R using 168 Amax over Varget, but he can tell his own story.;)

I'm using 90gr Berger VLD's over Varget.
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sorry if the pics are too big, but I give up.. and the target pic is from my phone:redface:
 
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The pics of your rifle aren’t to big. Its nice to see clear pics of nice looking rifles in the bush like that.

That’s good shooting by the way. I mean it sucks compared to what every one else on here shoots but what you going to do.

You’ll have to set up a wireless target camera. It helps so much for learning to read the wind.
 
Great shooting. Given the terrain and most definitely twitchy winds, that central group says alot about your loading and shooting skills.

About 3ish" wide and 1/2" tall? 900yds, I'll take that in a heart beat.

At that distance you will need to adjust your windage 1/2 min for each 2mph change (SWAG on your muzzle velocity).

Yes, you will be dancing around that target left and right all day long. Add in head and tailwinds and you can add elevation changes to that L/R dance.

Add in thermals as the day warms up, and you should not be surprised to see 1 or more MOA vertical all of a sudden then disappear.

But you now can see the potential when you get the wind right.

Those are beautiful pics by the way and I think I might need to borrow them :)

If there are clear cuts nearby, Shoot there. Being able to put up intermediate wind flags is a great aid but learning to read mirage is even better.

A wireless cam set up will help alot but unless you can see what the wind is doing to compare to where that bullet landed, not much help.

BUT at least you will know that a change has occured.

So happy that pod fits well and is obviously working for you to yield some great shooting.

Jerry
 
Thanks for the kind words. All our clear cuts are on a mountain side so it's tough to find the perfect spot. We're working on a 1000yd flat spot now, I'll just say it's waterfront and leave it at that. ;) I was looking into a camera set up but it takes an hour to hike in and retrieve, so that won't work. There's a gong hanging ~20' from the plywood and at 16", it's not hard to hit.

Dooran said:
Sick looking rifle! I'm a newb what all do you have there?
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Thank you, my kid calls it sick too. :D

Started as a Remington 700 SPS Tactical .223 1/9 twist. I will say it was a sick gun to learn with.

Now it's,

Rem 700 trued action
Shillen Select Match SS 1/7 twist finished at 28"
Throated for 90gr VLDs
AICS 2.0 stock
Rifle Basix trigger en route, factory trigger feels like garbage.
20 moa base
Burris rings using 10 moa insert
Bushnell 4.5-30x50
Mystic Precision pod

The gun was built by Jerry at Mystic Precision and Terry at Black Art rifle. I had the AI and bedded myself.
 
9x19p said:
Thanks for the kind words. All our clear cuts are on a mountain side so it's tough to find the perfect spot. We're working on a 1000yd flat spot now, I'll just say it's waterfront and leave it at that. ;) I was looking into a camera set up but it takes an hour to hike in and retrieve, so that won't work. There's a gong hanging ~20' from the plywood and at 16", it's not hard to hit.


Thank you, my kid calls it sick too. :D

Started as a Remington 700 SPS Tactical .223 1/9 twist. I will say it was a sick gun to learn with.

Now it's,

Rem 700 trued action
Shillen Select Match SS 1/7 twist finished at 28"
Throated for 90gr VLDs
AICS 2.0 stock
Rifle Basix trigger en route, factory trigger feels like garbage.
20 moa base
Burris rings using 10 moa insert
Bushnell 4.5-30x50
Mystic Precision pod

The gun was built by Jerry at Mystic Precision and Terry at Black Art rifle. I had the AI and bedded myself.
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I'm afraid to ask what that all costs... Sounds painful... Lol
 
Thanks for the clear pictures and cool story. Shooting in the hills sucks for wind reading and setting up a stage and target location but it does challenge your skills more for on the spot shooting and mental accurizing lol. Nice rifle by the way and pod!!!!
 
Great gun. I have the AICS as well and I love it. Isn't 900 yards a little far for .223? Lol even a 90gr can't stay supersonic past 600-700 yards Max right? (I'm a .308 guy, this is a legitimate question, not sarcasm). :)
 
JR86 said:
Great gun. I have the AICS as well and I love it. Isn't 900 yards a little far for .223? Lol even a 90gr can't stay supersonic past 600-700 yards Max right? (I'm a .308 guy, this is a legitimate question, not sarcasm). :)
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No, it's not too far. My 630yd gong is CQB, 900-1000 is just about right. The bullet doesn't need to stay supersonic, but it needs to stay stable transsonic.
 
JR86 said:
Great gun. I have the AICS as well and I love it. Isn't 900 yards a little far for .223? Lol even a 90gr can't stay supersonic past 600-700 yards Max right? (I'm a .308 guy, this is a legitimate question, not sarcasm). :)
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Go here: http://www.jbmballistics.com/cgi-bin/jbmtraj-5.1.cgi

From the "Library", choose "Berger, 0.224 cal, 90 gr, VLD (Litz)".

Choose muzzle velocity = 2780fps (a reasonably max-load speed for a 30" barrel; it corresponds to a 2950fps 80-grain bullet).

Run the numbers.

The bullet is still supersonic at 1200 yards....
 
JR86 said:
Great gun. I have the AICS as well and I love it. Isn't 900 yards a little far for .223? Lol even a 90gr can't stay supersonic past 600-700 yards Max right? (I'm a .308 guy, this is a legitimate question, not sarcasm). :)
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I shoot 80gr Amax and they stay supersonic out to 1100-1300yd depending on atmospheric conditions.
 
Yeah I just ran the 75gr TAP BTHP Match through my ballistic calculator. It says supersonic out to 963 yards. But it looks like that's about the best you're gonna get from a factory load. I had military "effective range" in mind when I suggested 900 yards was too far lol.

They say only like 500 yards lol different circumstances altogether.
 
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