My rant on Savage

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A friend of mine just purchased a model 16 in 308 because I talked him into it, he called me after it arrived and told me he didn't like the all plastic mag with the plastic tab, it felt cheap and probably wouldn't hold up. I thought only the axis had the cheaper mags so I found an older Savage bottom metal on CGN (Thanks Bob) and told him to bring it over so we could swap out the bottom metal and get some of the older metal mags.

When I got my hands on the rifle, there is no bottom metal, the stock is one piece polymer and the mags fit into a cut out in the plastic, I found an accustock and metal trigger guard on CGN (Thanks again Bob), the recoil lug won't fit the cut out on the accustock, I can fix that but when I looked at the new stock, there is no slot for the recoil lug, it just buts up against a plastic shelf in the stock.

Hey if I were buying a Savage Axis (which I have and sold because it was so cheap) then I would expect that a few corners would be cut, but this rifle retails for $939.99 at Cabelas, that shouldn't be a cheap rifle, I've has many Savage rifles over the years, from a model 99 to the 116 but I would be very leary about buying a new one

J
 
They've always been "special" and I'm surprised you've just noticed. They've only been getting worse with time.

Exactly. They seem to be moving to more axis "features on more models. I bought a model 11 a few years ago. Had bottom metal, and metal mags. The new ones come with an axis style bottom and axis mags. Overall they feel a lot cheaper then before. For the $900 could have gotten a way better slightly used rifle.

Heck brand new model 70's are $1000-1100 and a heck of a lot more rifle then a savage ever will be.
 
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A friend of mine just purchased a model 16 in 308 because I talked him into it, he called me after it arrived and told me he didn't like the all plastic mag with the plastic tab, it felt cheap and probably wouldn't hold up. I thought only the axis had the cheaper mags so I found an older Savage bottom metal on CGN (Thanks Bob) and told him to bring it over so we could swap out the bottom metal and get some of the older metal mags.

When I got my hands on the rifle, there is no bottom metal, the stock is one piece polymer and the mags fit into a cut out in the plastic, I found an accustock and metal trigger guard on CGN (Thanks again Bob), the recoil lug won't fit the cut out on the accustock, I can fix that but when I looked at the new stock, there is no slot for the recoil lug, it just buts up against a plastic shelf in the stock.

Hey if I were buying a Savage Axis (which I have and sold because it was so cheap) then I would expect that a few corners would be cut, but this rifle retails for $939.99 at Cabelas, that shouldn't be a cheap rifle, I've has many Savage rifles over the years, from a model 99 to the 116 but I would be very leary about buying a new one

J

Can you post pictures of the rifle? Something doesn't seem quite right about your situation. It actually sounds a lot like he got an Axis.
 
Can you post pictures of the rifle? Something doesn't seem quite right about your situation. It actually sounds a lot like he got an Axis.

I was thinking the same thing but I just searched the new model 16 and it appears that they are making them with that crappy Axis style mag, at least that's how it looked in several photos I came across and even mentioned in one of the comments on Cabelas website... A quick look through the savageshooters forum leads me to believe that most of the hunter series of rifles all have these crappy mags.
 
I was thinking the same thing but I just searched the new model 16 and it appears that they are making them with that crappy Axis style mag, at least that's how it looked in several photos I came across and even mentioned in one of the comments on Cabelas website... A quick look through the savageshooters forum leads me to believe that most of the hunter series of rifles all have these crappy mags.

Bottom metal should still be the same pattern though because it bolts to the action itself. It seems unlikely they'd resdesign the whole action to accommodate the use of slightly cheaper mags.
 
Joe 549.. Remington 783 have a metal mag not plastic ,, also the best shooting entry level rifle you will find ,, yes the stock is cheap however the price is too ,,
 
Bottom metal should still be the same pattern though because it bolts to the action itself. It seems unlikely they'd resdesign the whole action to accommodate the use of slightly cheaper mags.

Just basing on what I have been able to see in photos, which isn't great since I haven't found a clear photo of the bottom itself yet, it doesn't appear to have bottom metal... The M16 Lightweight Hunter definitely doesn't have it as there is a photo of it here

Edit: Here's a better picture from here
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Sounds like he got a trophy hunter. A 16 trophy hunter has a 1pc stock with axis style mags.

I agree, My Savage 10 FCP (new version with proprietary mags) looks completely different from that. I'm gonna go against the grain here because I actually feel that Savage has upped their game recently and so does my local dealer.
 
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