I'v heard the Nagant Revolver is supposed to be accurate? is this because no one has ammo to shoot it so they come to the conclusion that it must be accurate. I cant get anything better than 6" groups at 10 yards with mine, Has anyone had better luck? Is mine broken?
Nagant Pistol accurate?
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6" groups at 10 yards? If your new to handgun shooting, I'd say your doing well
{i was happy to print all on an 8x11 @ 50ft when i started}
{i was happy to print all on an 8x11 @ 50ft when i started}
A few thoughts 
- but YMMV (your mileage may vary)...:
(a) The Nagant was often zeroed for 25-yards - not 50 yards (as were some "other" military revolvers of the same period)...
(b) The Nagant fired a small-bore, relatively low-velocity round, which also contributed to a reputation for accuracy. However, new loads (including Fiocchi
) are apparently even lower in fps ?
(c) It's my strong suspicion that many of the accounts of Nagant accuracy come from those who've fired it single-action.
(d) A dirty Nagant revolver tends to be a less-accurate Nagant revolver....
Flame on ? ...
- but YMMV (your mileage may vary)...:(a) The Nagant was often zeroed for 25-yards - not 50 yards (as were some "other" military revolvers of the same period)...
(b) The Nagant fired a small-bore, relatively low-velocity round, which also contributed to a reputation for accuracy. However, new loads (including Fiocchi
) are apparently even lower in fps ?(c) It's my strong suspicion that many of the accounts of Nagant accuracy come from those who've fired it single-action.
(d) A dirty Nagant revolver tends to be a less-accurate Nagant revolver....
Flame on ? ...
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For what it's worth, myself and a friend tested out ammo over the chronograph. The original 1940's dated ammo ran somewhere around the 1050-1100fps range. The new made Fiocchi ammo was around the 650-700fps range.
We got rather poor groups with the Fiocchi ammo. Unfortunately just had enough of the original ammo to run over the chronograph, so didn't get a chance to test it for accuracy.
We got rather poor groups with the Fiocchi ammo. Unfortunately just had enough of the original ammo to run over the chronograph, so didn't get a chance to test it for accuracy.
I have a 1945 Tula made example that I would love to try out but finding ammo is a p.i.t.a. I have been considering hand loading but that won't be until some funds free up for the dies, brass, and bullets.
Anyone else test out their nagant revolver ?
Anyone else test out their nagant revolver ?
I don't have one myself, but the Russians still use the things to train their Olympic shots, so they can't be all bad.
Trade-Ex has the right slugs in stock.
If you're too cheap to buy the right brass, you can jigger some out of .32-20 although it will be much too short. The gas-seal is there for more than just good looks.
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Trade-Ex has the right slugs in stock.
If you're too cheap to buy the right brass, you can jigger some out of .32-20 although it will be much too short. The gas-seal is there for more than just good looks.
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I was under the impression that the Fiocchi stuff ran in excess of 1,000 FPS...
...thanks for the clarification !......
I was under the impression that the Fiocchi stuff ran in excess of 1,000 FPS...
I was surprised as well, but I've found that the Fiocchi ammo that I've tried in the older military calibres (7.62mm Nagant, .30 Luger, .30 Mauser, 9mm Browning Long) are all moderately to GROSSLY underloaded. Rather disappointing. Oh well. At least the brass is good for reloading.
I use Sellier & Bellot for 7.63 Mauser and my C96 loves it. Costs about $1.10 a shot but you can reload the brass and cut the cost by about four times or more depending on your load.
And yet.....
Is the Sellior & Bellot Nagant-revolver stuff any hotter ?
Because I do know their rifle offerings pack a pretty punch....
No kidding, what a beautifully made hand gun. I got the shoulder stock for her now too so I wonder how she will do with that attached ? It certainly feels awkward!
Talquin, what load are you going to try for your nagant ?
BARNES (COTW6) clocked factory loads with 108-grain slugs at 725 ft/sec for 125 ft/lbs and a 50-yard MRT of 2 inches.
He recommends 3.5 of Bullseye with the 100-grain SPEER PLINKER..... for 1000 ft/sec (which sounds awful hot to me)....... and for 222 ft/lbs ME....
......or 3 Bullseye with a 115 CAST bullet..... for 800 ft/sec and 165 ft/lbs.
Load like that and the gas-seal definitely will be working!
Far as dies are concerned, I use 7.63 Mauser dies for the Tokarev pistol with no trouble at all. Casings are identical, anyway, for Borchardt, Mauser, Tokarev and the Czech monster, the VZ-52, although the LOADS definitely are rising intensity along the list.
Trade-Ex has bulets for the Mauser/Tokarev cartridge and ALSO for the NAGANT. They had Nagant BRASS also, likely will have more soon. Decent prices, too. I was thinking to get some to chop down for my 8mm Lebel Revolver, but then they ran out and we have no Fiocchi dealer out this far in the sticks......so the sticks are stuck, if you want a bad pun.
Hope this helps.
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He recommends 3.5 of Bullseye with the 100-grain SPEER PLINKER..... for 1000 ft/sec (which sounds awful hot to me)....... and for 222 ft/lbs ME....
......or 3 Bullseye with a 115 CAST bullet..... for 800 ft/sec and 165 ft/lbs.
Load like that and the gas-seal definitely will be working!
Far as dies are concerned, I use 7.63 Mauser dies for the Tokarev pistol with no trouble at all. Casings are identical, anyway, for Borchardt, Mauser, Tokarev and the Czech monster, the VZ-52, although the LOADS definitely are rising intensity along the list.
Trade-Ex has bulets for the Mauser/Tokarev cartridge and ALSO for the NAGANT. They had Nagant BRASS also, likely will have more soon. Decent prices, too. I was thinking to get some to chop down for my 8mm Lebel Revolver, but then they ran out and we have no Fiocchi dealer out this far in the sticks......so the sticks are stuck, if you want a bad pun.
Hope this helps.
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