NB Moose Draw changes
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You think it's going to be better? BULLSH#T Until they let only the people that actually have a valid firearms licence to apply and cut out the grannies the wives and everyone else that doesn't regularly hunt and don't have a valid POL/PAL it's just a moneygrabbing lottery for the government.I've gone 18 years and will not go another.They can kiss my grits.I buy varmint licence,fishing licence and deer licence every year but yet I never have got drawn for moose?Meanwhile my sister in law who doesn't hunt,doesn't own a firearm calls me last fall to borrow a rifle,shells,hunter orange and everything else for hunting.I see a problem here
I think it's step in the right direction, at least with the admission that there are lots of folks out there that never get drawn and some that seem to get more than others. I hunt with a fellow that got 2 tags in 3 years.jklutes said:
One big reason for the decrease in the number of tags drawn is the uncontroled aboriginal hunt. Moose meat for cash.
I think there are fewer hunters out there every year, and if you decide not to apply, all the better for the few that do.
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Your more then welcome to it.I for one do not support the system and attended the meetings concerning the changes. It was brought up that if you got your licence or companion licence you had to wait 3 years to get another,. that was shot down.It was brought up to have the shooting test to qualify that it was safe for you to have control of a firearm,cause remember a lot of people that get drawn are not hunters and don't understand safety,that was shot down. It was also brought up to actually have a valid POL/PAL that was shot down cause it was discrimatory.But when you ask how much was brought in from the application fees their eyes light up.So I am not paying a fee every year to a crooked ,greedy system that allows anyone to pay their money and take tags away from sportsmen that obey the registration laws and pay for countless other licences through the year and keep the sport going.
And they act like a priority system is a new fangled and wonderful thing.
For more than 10 years Alberta has had draw priorities.
And not just 3 catigories.
The more you apply and if your not drawn your priority goes up on point.
I guess some Provinces are a tad slow to develop systems of draws which are hunter friendly.
For more than 10 years Alberta has had draw priorities.
And not just 3 catigories.
The more you apply and if your not drawn your priority goes up on point.
I guess some Provinces are a tad slow to develop systems of draws which are hunter friendly.
Having to take a shooting test or hold a valid PAL in order to be eligible for the draw makes no sense if you are going to use archery tackle or a crossbow?I know what your suggestions are trying to accomplish,but they aren't workable solutions to the problem.
Alberta does have the fairest system available although some people even find ways to misuse it.
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jklutes said:
My point was simple: It's about time that they recognized that there is a large group of people here in NB that either have never had a tag or haven't had one in a long time. These changes address that fact. The moose hunting situation is my single most beef with living here in NB and this is at least a positve step.
Your points are unrelated and sound more like sour grapes.
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Sour grapes ?Exactly !To call a spade a spade the whole shebang is tainted.The $10.00 to apply is a cash windfall when you figure out how many people apply.That's all they care about.Not the aboriginal down the road that you know is dropping moose left and right.Not the moose wounded by inexperienced hunters.I mean I understand the D.N.R. is shortstaffed but still everyone knows that if you want moose meat who to contact to sell you some.I understand their rights but when the moose is gone what's next?Deer? Bear?
It may be a step in the right direction, but I think that they have not gone far enough. The Alberta system of awarding priority points for unsuccessful applications is the way to go. That way the longest suffering applicants are guaranteed to be drawn. (I am not one of them by the way, I got drawn in 1995). The gov't doesn't want to do that because the moose draw is a cash cow and they are addicted to the application fees. Making people wait their turn for moose licences does not make for immediate gratification, and I suppose some people would give up applying if they had to wait 10 or 15 years to get drawn, meaning less applications. But at least you would know that if you kept applying, it was going to happen in 2 years or 5 or 10 or whatever...
NB game laws are about 50 years behind everyone else and are in need of a MAJOR overhaul. Our deer season ends the third week of November, when in most cases the bucks haven't even come into full rut!!! Every one of our Provincial and State neighbours has deer seasons that cover ALL of November and even part of December in some cases. They want to sell you the licence, not the best chance to kill the trophy bucks we have here.
Never mind the lack of extended primitive weapon seasons...
I would encourage NBers to continue pressuring our politician for reform. It is too easy to just accept the status quo.
and they are addicted to the application fees. Making people wait their turn for moose licences does not make for immediate gratification, and I suppose some people would give up applying if they had to wait 10 or 15 years to get drawn, meaning less applications. But at least you would know that if you kept applying, it was going to happen in 2 years or 5 or 10 or whatever...NB game laws are about 50 years behind everyone else and are in need of a MAJOR overhaul. Our deer season ends the third week of November, when in most cases the bucks haven't even come into full rut!!!
Every one of our Provincial and State neighbours has deer seasons that cover ALL of November and even part of December in some cases. They want to sell you the licence, not the best chance to kill the trophy bucks we have here.Never mind the lack of extended primitive weapon seasons...
I would encourage NBers to continue pressuring our politician for reform. It is too easy to just accept the status quo.
shepodyguide said:NB game laws are about 50 years behind everyone else and are in need of a MAJOR overhaul. Our deer season ends the third week of November, when in most cases the bucks haven't even come into full rut!!!
Never mind the lack of extended primitive weapon seasons...
I would encourage NBers to continue pressuring our politician for reform. It is too easy to just accept the status quo.
I fully agree with that!
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Seems to me there should at least be a 4th pool. I drew in '95. Assuming I don't get a tag this year, I'll be in the 12yr. pool next year. I know lots of folks who have waited a lot longer that that. I really like the sounds of the alberta system. Trying to squeeze folks into catagories doesn't work. The other concern is the out of province applicants. What are their odds? Yeah, they help employ guides and outfitters, but how much money do they actually bring into the economy? Just curious?
Lefty #### said:
Best system out there, IMO. If they adopted this in NB, even if you have to wait 8 or 10 years to get your tag at least you know it's a guarantee. I've been going to AB for almost 10 years and know for a fact that I will get drawn for a Trophy Muley tag every 3 years, at most 4.
This new 'priority' draw horse#### in NB is just more DNR marketing propaganda to appease the masses so they can count on your $9.20 again this spring......
I've been very lucky with the draw (3 times since 1991) but most haven't.
