NEA-15 - Who's Doing A Torture Test?

Hokus Grey said:
I'd love to see a 1000 round torture test done.

DudeinGP did a great one with the CSA carbine when it was released.
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I think Tritium will be using his NEA carbine at a course coming up. But as an instructor probably won't be putting that many rounds through it.

misanthropist said:
I will, but I am currently waiting for the 12" guns. We'll see if I can hold out or if I just give up and buy a 14.5.
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The more I think about it, the next upper I buy will probably be a 14.5. Better ballistics, less flash, less blast and more rail to get a better extension of my left arm (I have long arms). I'd like to see NEA make a midlength though.
 
Hokus Grey said:
I'd love to see a 1000 round torture test done.

DudeinGP did a great one with the CSA carbine when it was released.
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True, but he didn't pay for that carbine, it was a loaner from Wolverine.

I don't think you'll find anyone doing a test like that with a rifle and ammo that's all been paid for out of their own pocket.
 
CQB Services/The ShootingEdge/ NEA was invited to the OPP FIC at Borden(Firearms Instructor Course/2 week long course that the OPP hosts for it's members and other services), during our visit the almost 20 student instructors had a chance to handle the NEA carbine. We fired about 1500rds in a little over an hour, a suppressor was also on the NEA carbine & both ran without problems. The students all enjoyed having the carbine suppressed, the standard OPP issue carbine is a Colt Canada 10.5" platform & according to all those present very loud. The NEA carbine was equipped with Troy front & rear folding sights, prototype Troy self- contained drop in match trigger, Magpul pistol grip, Norgon Ambi magazine release, BAD ambi-selector, Troy Battle Ax stock, Surefire 600C, and Aimpoint M4S. This carbine was also at Borden for a RUAG Swiss P Precision ammunition seminar/demo, and was handled by various Police Tactical Team members. It exhibited excellent accuracy at 300 meters with the suppressor & Aimpoint, all those who handled the NEA carbine were impressed with rail ergonomics. During our 4 hour stay the NEA carbine was exposed to over 1500rds of RUAG GP90, for the record it loves the GP90 and was impressive when combined with the suppressor & Aimpoint for accuracy.
 
There should be something that tests the function and reliability of an AR that won't put my safety in danger.
Trying to make it blow up is not torture..............

I don't have enough mags to do that many rounds....LOL I would need 200 p-mags
 
Hopefully this does not disappoint anyone but I do not intend to get the barrel on mine red hot.

Using a very large number of magazines, I managed to put 240 rounds through a VZ in a little under 4 minutes once...the barrel was very hot but a long way from changing colour.

Honestly the term "torture testing" gets thrown around a lot and I do not specifically "torture test" any of my guns (although that 58 was probably feeling pretty abused). What I would be inclined to do would simply be to run it hard for, say, 2 or 3 thousand rounds without cleaning it, and keep track of the accuracy and of course any stoppages or malfunctions.

But frankly I don't think there's any reason to worry...I have 99.9% confidence that the NEA guns will have no trouble getting a few thousand rounds through them with no issues.
 
While we certainly did not baby the NEA carbines, we still have to be responsible when doing demonstrations, I lubricate all our carbines with Slip 2000 & when running the suppressor's temperatures get highly elevated. I can tell everyone that using a high grade quality lubricant, is necessary when running suppressed platforms, I have really become a strong proponent of the Slip 2000 since using suppressors.
 
bjs7293 said:
Maybe a test similar to what Daniel Defence has dreamed up see how the NEA compairs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89HEefl1KI4
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In my opinion the Ontario CFO would be less than pleased with testing like this, it makes great video for people to watch - however beyond that I do not see any real value to blowing up or destroying firearms, the exception being proof loads to test chamber and barrels.
 
Clobbersauras said:
I think Tritium will be using his NEA carbine at a course coming up. But as an instructor probably won't be putting that many rounds through it.



The more I think about it, the next upper I buy will probably be a 14.5. Better ballistics, less flash, less blast and more rail to get a better extension of my left arm (I have long arms). I'd like to see NEA make a midlength though.
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My rifle will be here on Monday. It's a 14.5 inch, box stock gun with Troy fixed sights and will wear a Lucid for a course (it's for a test and an article) then she'll have my aimpoint H-1 on her.

The owner of NEA and I talked and agreed that I should be running the gun that everyone else gets, in fact, I asked for factory second parts to test. She is getting sighted in and tested for function with about 500 rounds next week.

I've made it clear to the NEA folks that I would run a gun and parts that are readily available from Canadian retail outlets.

Clobb makes a good point, I won't be abusing this gun on a course because a course is not about me shooting but about the students. I'll be firing minimal rounds but my gun will be reliable!

I will be abusing it and running it withhigh caps and suppressors in the future (legally, of course) in order to heat it up and to test reliability with a suppressor mounted. As cqb services pointed out, the OPP Firearms Instructors' course can be a huge torture test for any firearm. I've taken it and taught on it and and I've seen pistols, rifles, shotguns and subguns fail, break, catch on fire, etc on this course. It is the best firearm's course I've ever been on and it teaches their instructors a ton!

Anyway, the abuse I subject the gun to will be akin to a police tac team firearm (I have no military experience other than as an embedded police/tac trainee and trainer). I will probably do some stuff with the gun being dry to test NEA's finish but I don't like abusing guns in such a fashion (all guns need lube, period). This winter she is getting some cold weather testing with only teflon lube.

I've already shot an NEA gun and I like them. Time will tell though but, for now, I stand by the gun.
 
... My personal rifle has about 9000rnds through it. 5000 of those being done in 3 days. Another 3000 being done in 3 days. It has had almost exclusively all of it's test days being 1000+ rnds/day. We've done mag dumps, extended strings to the point of turning the barrel blue. I wouldn't call any of this torture though; any AR should be able to handle a full day of shooting.


As for torture, we did also water-board 3 guns. They did not give up the location of their recce elements.

- Dave
 
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