Neck size or full length for lever action

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I'm a newb. I have been reloading for a bolt action for a couple months now and have just purchesed a marlin 336.. I heard for semi-auto's you need to full length size but do I need to for lever?? Any tips or things I should be doing different for levers? and i'll take a suggestion or two on types of bullets you guy's like for 30-30's. and loads you like 2 ;)

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Simple, neck size a piece of fired brass from that rifle & see if the lever closes easily with it in the chamber. If you find resistance then size it a bit more. My advise for a hunting type lever gun is just resize full length as levers don't have much camming action & your not likely to see any accuracy advantage neck sizing might give.
 
Lever actions, pumps and semi-autos require FL resizing. Like senior says, it has to do with the strength of the camming in these actions.
Neck sizing is for bolt actions only. And only brass that was fired out of that rifle. New brass and once fired out of another rifle must be FL resized first.
 
I would definitely full length resize for a lever. Because of the weak camming action, plus these are usually used priomarily for hunting you want reliablity over anytihng else.

Using small base dies to reload ammo is important in semis where a lot of rapid firing can take place and chambers can get dirty fast. I'm not sure if they're as necessary in levers where less firing takes place (mind you maybe it does in cowboy action, I don't know). Can't hurt though.
 
Lever actions, pumps and semi-autos require FL resizing. Like senior says, it has to do with the strength of the camming in these actions.
Neck sizing is for bolt actions only. And only brass that was fired out of that rifle. New brass and once fired out of another rifle must be FL resized first.
Sorry sunray, but that's just not entirely true.
If you use your levergun for target or just for fun, try neck sizing. It's easier on the brass. You probably won't be able to see any accuracy difference, but that's just the limitations of the short light rifle you are using.
I routinely neck size 30-30 for my model 94 Winchester, and if I get a case that's a bit tight, the action does have enough camming powder, with a good squeeze on my part. That may not be true for cases that have tougher brass, but certainly, the slope shoulders, and thin case walls of the 30-30, are no big deal.
Like Senior, when big game hunting, I do full length resize every round. Not because the rifle won't do it, but rather because I don't want to have to squeeze home a round, when I need a quick shot.
I should note that the small amount of camming power available to the '94, is on loading only. It has SFA when you want to eject. So pay attention to those maximum loads.

On small base dies. I have one rifle that requires all cases to be run twice through a small base die, or my preferred method, once through the small base die, and once through a file trim die.
That rifle is a 308 BLR. It simply will not close on some rounds that have not been through the die.
All my other leverguns make no such demands.
 
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I just use full length sizing dies in my two 35Whelen Semis. I like Hornady dies. No problems so far.
I routinely neck size 30-30 for my model 94 Winchester...
I do the same for my 35Rem Marlin lever. I don't overwork the brass, pressures are relatively low in the 35Rem and the brass is thin too. It's kind of counter intuitive though I've got to admit. I got the idea from some 35Rem performance loaders on the marlin owners forum. So far so good. When hunting with them I run each neck sized EMPTY into the chamber once to make sure there are no difficult to chamber ones - before charging and seating the bullet. Then I double check by trying chambering each loaded round - out in the woods or at the range.

That said, full length sizing is probably the way for a newb to go. Lot less to go wrong.
 
"...difference between..." A small base die resizes the case a wee bit more than a full length. It's one or the other. Millions of rounds were loaded for semi's, etc with FL dies long before SB dies came along.
 
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