Need 12 gauge loading info

[Rottboy_8]

Will be starting to make 12 gauge shotshells using a Lee Load All 2. Will be using my molded lead buck (size: .311).
Need some loading data from the more experienced.
- have some Hodgdon's Longshot and Clay's powder. Anyone know what powder charge I can start out with using these two mentioned?
- how much buck does one determine is enough to put for each load?
- hulls to be used are once fired Winchester AA and Remington both 2- 3/4"

All tips and suggestions are welcome. Happy shooting fellas!!!

 

[just having some fun]

i checked out hodgdon site do not list those powder for buck shot and also checked out the lyman shot shell book no info

0 buck-.32 dia = 9 pellet count per oz =
10 pellets = 1-1/8 oz/12 pellets = 1-3/8 oz

1 buck-.30 dia = 10 pellet count per oz = 15 pellets = 1-1/2 oz

the easy way of loading buckshot is to use a plastic wad (you do not list the wad you have or what you are going to use)
different primers/ wads will change pressure/ velocity

what type of load do you want target/ med/ heavy

check out some of the on line data centers

 

[Rottboy_8]

........use a plastic wad (you do not list the wad you have or what you are going to use) different primers/ wads will change pressure/ velocity
what type of load do you want target/ med/ heavy
check out some of the on line data centers

- Thanks for the info on buck weight conversion. Will be using 1 1/8 oz. wad (WAA12) with either CCI or Federal primer.
- Loads will be primarily for target and occasionally, heavy.
- Will continue to check other data sources.

Found the following on Longshot but find it questionable - Fed Gold medal + fed 209 + 33.3 longshot + 1 1/8 lead gives you something like 10.500psi and 15.000fps velocity. Don't these results appear too hot?

 

[hk33ka1]

I used Lyman Shotshell Manual data with my Lee .319 ball mold. I used the 00 data wich would be a little heavier charge of shot than my home cast. I layered the pellets in 3 layers of 3 with a bit of cardboard to take up the extra room. I used Winchester or Federal trap Hulls and a Claybuster trap wad. I'll look up the specific charges from the manual later for you.

I am using 31-32gr of Hodgdon HS-6 with a cheddite 209 primer. in mixed hulls with the Claybuster WAA12 equivilent wad and a carboard disk cut from a box on top of 9x .319 Lee round ball. My pellets weigh 47.6 grs each. Loaded with a Lee Load All II. Getting 2-3 reloads out of these once fired trap hulls.

 

[Rottboy_8]

..used Lyman Shotshell Manual data with my Lee .319 ball mold. I used the 00 data wich would be a little heavier charge of shot than my home cast....look up the specific charges from the manual later for you.
.....using 31-32gr of Hodgdon HS-6 with a cheddite 209 primer. in mixed hulls with the Claybuster WAA12 equivilent wad and a carboard disk cut from a box on top of 9x .319 Lee round ball. My pellets weigh 47.6 grs each....Getting 2-3 reloads out of these once fired trap hulls.

HK, great info from you and JHSF. Now I won't go into my test loads blind. Just came back from my neighborhood supplier with 1 lb. of HS-6 so will start out with that instead of my current powder inventory. Could'nt find any cheddite so I got a box of Federal magnum shotshell primers. Will that suffice??? Will also implement the cardboard disc cut out. Any idea on fps data? Getting exciting now to test in the next couple of weeks when all my equipment is in place. Big thanks and any further info will be much appreciated. Happy shooting to us all!!!!

 

[hk33ka1]

I think your primers will be fine. I don't tend to follow as close to the book with my shotshell loading as with rifle (I don't exceed the powder amounts though) as far as components go. Some people tend to stick with exact brands and types in the manual, I do not.

I don't know the FPS because I have no way to measure, and I am not using the same shot as the manual, to compare its speed to.

The card board disc is only if your crimp is not folding properly do to too low of a shot level. I just use it so the crimp is snug. You may or may not need it.

The instructions with your Lee should have some limited load data too, it is also available on Lees site under instructions.