Need a No4 barrel installed in Western Canada
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Markin and Weber in Kelowna does good work. Not fast or cheap.
No 4 barrels aren't interchangeable as is. They need to be chucked in a lathe and have the shoulder set back to index properly, then they may need to have the chamber cleaned up for proper headspace with the bolt you have.
It also takes a special set of tools to properly hold the receiver as they're quite soft and will easily deform if to much force is used or an improperly fitted wrench is used.
There is no way to install that barrel with an internal action wrench and there is only one useable flat and it's on the bottom of the action, to take up most of the torque.
A properly machined outside of the ring, action wrench, with a slot cut into the flat for the King Screw lug on the bottom is a must to get the right torque, without deforming the action.
I've seen several No4 actions that were damaged because some nimrod decided to use a Crescent Wrench on the side flats, that had to be discarded.
Markin and Weber have the proper tooling on hand and if they don't, will make it up for future use on other actions.
Good folks doing good work.
No 4 barrels aren't interchangeable as is. They need to be chucked in a lathe and have the shoulder set back to index properly, then they may need to have the chamber cleaned up for proper headspace with the bolt you have.
It also takes a special set of tools to properly hold the receiver as they're quite soft and will easily deform if to much force is used or an improperly fitted wrench is used.
There is no way to install that barrel with an internal action wrench and there is only one useable flat and it's on the bottom of the action, to take up most of the torque.
A properly machined outside of the ring, action wrench, with a slot cut into the flat for the King Screw lug on the bottom is a must to get the right torque, without deforming the action.
I've seen several No4 actions that were damaged because some nimrod decided to use a Crescent Wrench on the side flats, that had to be discarded.
Markin and Weber have the proper tooling on hand and if they don't, will make it up for future use on other actions.
Good folks doing good work.
Reliable in Vancouver has (maybe had) the correct wrenches and gauges for doing the job.
Quality work and not a mark on either the removed or replaced barrel.
I cannot say enough about the quality of work.
I would phone and see if they still do it as the owner of the tools has passed away (RIP) and the tools might have been returned to the estate.
Quality work and not a mark on either the removed or replaced barrel.
I cannot say enough about the quality of work.
I would phone and see if they still do it as the owner of the tools has passed away (RIP) and the tools might have been returned to the estate.
Me too, that's why I said "well intentioned". My first time in there was to bring in a Defender pump that was locked open. His comment was " if you're using that POS as a f#$&@ bear gun I can weld on a f$#@& bayonet for you." Needless to say I became a regular.
Just a few comments...
No. 4 barrels are much easier to install than to remove. A relief groove can be cut just in front of the receiver ring to relax the torque. To reuse the barrel, machine the shoulder and use a breeching washer.
In theory the barrel should go in hand tight 14 degrees off index, then require perhaps 120ft-lb of torque to bring to index. A good receiver wrench and barrel vise reduce the risk of damage.
If bolt heads are available, headspacing is facilitated.
Because of the Nock's Form, extractor cut and front sight lugs, the barrel has only one option for indexing.
No. 4 barrels are much easier to install than to remove. A relief groove can be cut just in front of the receiver ring to relax the torque. To reuse the barrel, machine the shoulder and use a breeching washer.
In theory the barrel should go in hand tight 14 degrees off index, then require perhaps 120ft-lb of torque to bring to index. A good receiver wrench and barrel vise reduce the risk of damage.
If bolt heads are available, headspacing is facilitated.
Because of the Nock's Form, extractor cut and front sight lugs, the barrel has only one option for indexing.
Del would job it out and charge over and above for the service.
Del has been going through some very trying times. His home and a lot of collectibles burned down, 100% loss of motor home and a couple of other homes on each side. Then he fell down and cracked his head.
As for being the proverbial ''curmudgeon" take it with a grain of salt. He can be a really good friend when one is needed.
The proper old school mount pads for the proper No32 scope mount. The ones that have to be screwed into the side of the receiver.
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I email'd them and they seem to have trouble understanding I just want scope pads installed. Buddy quoted me 3 months and $1800 for a complete restoration.
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- Western Manitoba
Does not sound like you got a quote for just installing pads!! BUT - from a buddy who has done them - likely need the side mount unit as well - as we understand, sometimes requires some milling on side of receiver to get the pads and mount to be "collimated" - why they were marked - was not "one size fits all" - was installed as a particular set of pads go with a particular side mount on a particular rifle. I think originally, even the rifle got marked with the scope serial number that was set up for using with it. I believe originally, the pads were actually soft-soldered in place, as well as threaded mounting screws and alignment pins. Or perhaps go "red neck" and ignore all that, and get what you get.
