Need a straight forward answer to a question regarding the Savage Precision rifles

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Hello,

Great group. I have fired thousands and thousands of rounds of every caliber from .17 all the way to .50 BMG during my 62 years.

I have 3 rifles to choose from; a Savage Axis 2 Precision at $1300, a 110 Precision at $2000, and a 110 Elite Precision at $2700.

For this scenario, only the barrel length, rifle weight, and type of barrel (carbon steel or stainless steel) is different. Lets assume everything else is exactly the same including the environment, the temperature of the barrel when the shot is fired, the round, the trigger pull, etc. etc.

My question is: Given the above assumptions; does $2700 buy me any more accuracy/precision at any given range compared to the other 2 offerings?

Perhaps the only person(s) who can answer this are the rifle builders themselves. I am hoping some of you have experience with these 3 rifles. I have no knowledge of rifle barrel manufacturing and certainly do not know if the pricing reflects the barrel quality or just the bells and whistles I mention below.

The reason for my question is simply the fact that I do not enjoy spending money on bells and whistles that do very little in regard to accomplishing what I am setting out to do. Much like purchasing a car; I don't give a rip about heated seats or leather covers..all I want is the car to get me to my destination as efficiently as possible relying on my driving skills.
With a rifle; I don't care about smooth actions or crisp triggers, number of accessary mounting spots, etc. All I care about is that when using proper positioning, breathing, trigger pull, and follow through combined with a properly set up optic and sight picture the bullet will hit the target where I want it to and will do so repeatedly (as long as I, the shooter, do the same thing each time).

Thank you for your consideration.
 
I have owned axis and elite precision, and also build all my bolt guns from Savage action. Here are my thoughts:

The barrels on all 3 are very much on par with each other in terms of potential for accuracy. Both 110s come with a pretty good muzzle brake while the axis does not.

I don't like the axis action, it is harder to work with compared to 10/110, also with less aftermarket support.

Elite precision really impressed me as a factory gun. The mdt acc chassis that comes with it will help you make accurate shots from difficult positions way better than the other 2. Elite precision is also significantly heavier. Heavier guns are easier to shoot more accurately.

If you are open to used, Savage 10 precision carbine is a very good base rifle and can be had for under $1000. The action is already geared toward precision. The stock is ridgid, and the heavy barrel is accurate.
 
What is your expected accuracy?

A lot of things need to be considered to have the bullet go where YOU want it to.

Rough and dirty, the 110 action and trigger should be more consistent.
The longer barrels should give you some more FPS to keep the speed up for longer ranges.

A good trigger is more about consistently letting the firing pin drop so you dont pull a shot, than it is about just having a crisp feeling trigger.
A good action will consistently register the case and have a more consistent firing pin drop.
A longer barrel gets your velocity up so the bullet can buck the wind better and have better tracjectory.

Savages have pretty good factory barrels. Not sure if theyre cherry picking barrels for the 2k rifle over a 1.4k rifle... doubt it. Think theyre just stamping barrels out and if it meets atleast minimum criteria it gets sent. Some factory barrels are laser beams, some arent. None are guaranteed to win a match. Probably all will hit the kill zone on game to a couple hundred yards atleast.

You can shoot a Savage axis 308 with a 20" barrel out to 1k yards... the difference between that and something better, is consistently hitting a milk jug vs hitting it once in awhile.
 
I prefer to buy Savages used and build them up from there, just for fun.
Trigger, bolt innards, barrel and often the stock all get changed.
It'd lots of fun- not very good for the pocket book, but lots of fun, and you end up with a very accurate rifle to boot!
Cat
 
diegocn said:
If you are open to used, Savage 10 precision carbine is a very good base rifle and can be had for under $1000. The action is already geared toward precision. The stock is ridgid, and the heavy barrel is accurate.
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I have a totally stock 308 Precision Carbine and it has been a fantastic and solidly reliable rifle for the 20+ years I have owned it. It has had thousands upon thousands of rounds through it and just last week it plunked 3 rounds of 150gr Interlocks into a cloverleaf hole at 100 yds.

For what I paid for my Precision Carbine, it has been one of the best firearm purchases ever.

Not sure about other Savage Accu-Triggers but the one that came on the Precision Carbine is fantastic, as set from the factory. I have several extremely lightweight target triggers and the PC Accu-Trigger runs w the best of them.

Not sure if the rifles or actions are all that available these days. I haven't seen one listed for sale for quite a while.


fiftycalforsquirrels said:
You can shoot a Savage axis 308 with a 20" barrel out to 1k yards.
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I've shot my 20" barrelled Precision Carbine to 1200 yds with 208 AMAX bullets.

I have since built a heavy target rifle to take over from the Precision Carbine for long range shooting but the Precision Carbine will be kept in oder to fill hunting duties as well as SHTF, where it would excel, as it is relatively light yet is handy, tough, durable and reliable.
 
My 308 Precision Carbine was also excellent, as was the (model?) with the HS precision stock and long barrel. Excellent.
 
A good trigger is as important as the rifle itself. A heavy, clunky trigger will have you jerking the rifle and moving off target vs a crisp and light trigger pull. Bells and whistles might not seem like much but, they work. A chassis system. Makes your rifle customizable to your size, your length of pull, even the size of your cheek bone. Because we are not all the same size yet many rifles come one size fits all. A chassis free floating and accurizing your gun is only half of what it does. You will be more accurate when a rifle fits you like a glove.
 
squishall said:
Hello,

Great group. I have fired thousands and thousands of rounds of every caliber from .17 all the way to .50 BMG during my 62 years.

I have 3 rifles to choose from; a Savage Axis 2 Precision at $1300, a 110 Precision at $2000, and a 110 Elite Precision at $2700.

For this scenario, only the barrel length, rifle weight, and type of barrel (carbon steel or stainless steel) is different. Lets assume everything else is exactly the same including the environment, the temperature of the barrel when the shot is fired, the round, the trigger pull, etc. etc.

My question is: Given the above assumptions; does $2700 buy me any more accuracy/precision at any given range compared to the other 2 offerings?

Perhaps the only person(s) who can answer this are the rifle builders themselves. I am hoping some of you have experience with these 3 rifles. I have no knowledge of rifle barrel manufacturing and certainly do not know if the pricing reflects the barrel quality or just the bells and whistles I mention below.

The reason for my question is simply the fact that I do not enjoy spending money on bells and whistles that do very little in regard to accomplishing what I am setting out to do. Much like purchasing a car; I don't give a rip about heated seats or leather covers..all I want is the car to get me to my destination as efficiently as possible relying on my driving skills.
With a rifle; I don't care about smooth actions or crisp triggers, number of accessary mounting spots, etc. All I care about is that when using proper positioning, breathing, trigger pull, and follow through combined with a properly set up optic and sight picture the bullet will hit the target where I want it to and will do so repeatedly (as long as I, the shooter, do the same thing each time).

Thank you for your consideration.
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In my opinion yes. The elite precision will be easier to shoot consistently.
 
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